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Post by nyline on Dec 16, 2018 13:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by elliotberton on Dec 16, 2018 16:15:24 GMT -5
Now I'm wondering about scholarship limits again.
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Post by Millennium on Dec 16, 2018 16:22:35 GMT -5
Now I'm wondering about scholarship limits again.
LOL! How many do you count for 2019?
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Post by nyline on Dec 16, 2018 16:29:55 GMT -5
Now I'm wondering about scholarship limits again. I believe that with the addition in 2019 of the three OH signees, PSU doesn't have any scholarships available in 2019 unless a player leaves the team (transfer or whatever). They will be at 12 scholarships -- the full allotment. I really, really don't want to get into speculation on whether a player might leave. I'm not aware of any rumors and unless a player announces they're leaving, I think we all should operate on the sound assumption that everyone will be back. I assume, without knowing, that both Kendall and Tori are on scholarship, and that two of the four reported commits for 2020 will be on scholarship. I really don't want to get into a guessing game as to which two (not that you were). For me, that sort of falls into the sage advice about not counting other people's money. |
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Post by Millennium on Dec 16, 2018 16:46:02 GMT -5
Now I'm wondering about scholarship limits again. I believe that with the addition in 2019 of the three OH signees, PSU doesn't have any scholarships available in 2019 unless a player leaves the team (transfer or whatever). They will be at 12 scholarships -- the full allotment. I really, really don't want to get into speculation on whether a player might leave. I'm not aware of any rumors and unless a player announces they're leaving, I think we all should operate on the sound assumption that everyone will be back. I assume, without knowing, that both Kendall and Tori are on scholarship, and that two of the four reported commits for 2020 will be on scholarship. I really don't want to get into a guessing game as to which two (not that you were). For me, that sort of falls into the sage advice about not counting other people's money.
I wonder if some of the existing players have the grades to move from an athletic to academic scholarship? Also, can a player be accepted on an academic scholarship and still even play on the team per NCAA rules? I thought I read that certain players on previous teams had the grades and enjoyed academic schollies.
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Post by nyline on Dec 16, 2018 17:22:02 GMT -5
I believe that with the addition in 2019 of the three OH signees, PSU doesn't have any scholarships available in 2019 unless a player leaves the team (transfer or whatever). They will be at 12 scholarships -- the full allotment. I really, really don't want to get into speculation on whether a player might leave. I'm not aware of any rumors and unless a player announces they're leaving, I think we all should operate on the sound assumption that everyone will be back. I assume, without knowing, that both Kendall and Tori are on scholarship, and that two of the four reported commits for 2020 will be on scholarship. I really don't want to get into a guessing game as to which two (not that you were). For me, that sort of falls into the sage advice about not counting other people's money.
I wonder if some of the existing players have the grades to move from an athletic to academic scholarship? Also, can a player be accepted on an academic scholarship and still even play on the team per NCAA rules? I thought I read that certain players on previous teams had the grades and enjoyed academic schollies.
Not sure about this, but I don't think that works. This is from DIY College Rankings (you should check the site out -- the full discussion is quite interesting): www.diycollegerankings.com/can-college-athletes-receive-athletic-academic-scholarships/6267/ |
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Post by pennstate1973 on Dec 16, 2018 22:17:16 GMT -5
Getting a 1200 on the SAT is not that difficult for many students. It seems wrong that every potential recruit with a 1200+ score could be offered a full ride academic scholarship to get around the maximum number of athletic scholarships.
I'm uncertain about next year's prospects for the team being a championship contender. Big uncertainty about how the setter position will pan out. No way to tell at this point. When fans are focused on some mystical transfer to save the team, one might think there are some doubters beyond me.
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Post by nyline on Dec 16, 2018 22:33:43 GMT -5
Getting a 1200 on the SAT is not that difficult for many students. It seems wrong that every potential recruit with a 1200+ score could be offered a full ride academic scholarship to get around the maximum number of athletic scholarships. I'm uncertain about next year's prospects for the team being a championship contender. Big uncertainty about how the setter position will pan out. No way to tell at this point. When fans are focused on some mystical transfer to save the team, one might think there are some doubters beyond me. I don't think meeting any of the criteria is a guarantee of obtaining the exemption. The rule is described in the article I cited as follows: Of course, I don't know if that description is accurate or, if accurate, how that rule is applied. I agree with you that it seems wrong that every potential recruit who meets that standard (or other criteria) would be able to get around the scholarship limitations. I also agree that it is far from certain that next year's team will be a championship contender. However, the fascination with the mystical transfer is something that occupies the fans of many schools. That shiny new penny is seemingly irresistible. |
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Post by elliotberton on Dec 17, 2018 0:23:50 GMT -5
Now I'm wondering about scholarship limits again. I believe that with the addition in 2019 of the three OH signees, PSU doesn't have any scholarships available in 2019 unless a player leaves the team (transfer or whatever). They will be at 12 scholarships -- the full allotment. I really, really don't want to get into speculation on whether a player might leave. I'm not aware of any rumors and unless a player announces they're leaving, I think we all should operate on the sound assumption that everyone will be back. I assume, without knowing, that both Kendall and Tori are on scholarship, and that two of the four reported commits for 2020 will be on scholarship. I really don't want to get into a guessing game as to which two (not that you were). For me, that sort of falls into the sage advice about not counting other people's money. Actually, I was wondering which 12 of those players listed (17 for next year) have the scholarships. |
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Post by Millennium on Dec 17, 2018 1:27:33 GMT -5
I believe that with the addition in 2019 of the three OH signees, PSU doesn't have any scholarships available in 2019 unless a player leaves the team (transfer or whatever). They will be at 12 scholarships -- the full allotment. I really, really don't want to get into speculation on whether a player might leave. I'm not aware of any rumors and unless a player announces they're leaving, I think we all should operate on the sound assumption that everyone will be back. I assume, without knowing, that both Kendall and Tori are on scholarship, and that two of the four reported commits for 2020 will be on scholarship. I really don't want to get into a guessing game as to which two (not that you were). For me, that sort of falls into the sage advice about not counting other people's money. Actually, I was wondering which 12 of those players listed (17 for next year) have the scholarships.
I would think all the tallest and the starting shortest.
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Post by seeyajohn on Dec 17, 2018 6:02:51 GMT -5
I know that in wrestling (limited to 9.9 scholarships) coaches use partial scholarships to spread the wealth among their wrestlers. I don't know if that applies to volleyball.
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Post by nyline on Dec 17, 2018 8:23:14 GMT -5
I know that in wrestling (limited to 9.9 scholarships) coaches use partial scholarships to spread the wealth among their wrestlers. I don't know if that applies to volleyball. It does not apply to volleyball. A school could decide to give out 12 half-funded scholarships, but for purposes of the NCAA, they would have given out their full allotment of 12 scholarships. |
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Post by pointps on Dec 17, 2018 9:04:44 GMT -5
Uh, this is getting almost as confusing as that thread 2 weeks back where posters were explaining how to count substitutions, rotations, etc.
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Post by nyline on Dec 17, 2018 10:58:39 GMT -5
Uh, this is getting almost as confusing as that thread 2 weeks back where posters were explaining how to count substitutions, rotations, etc. In D1 women's volleyball, if you receive any money as an athletic scholarship, even if it's not the full amount of scholarship money you could be given, your money counts as a full scholarship for purposes of determining the number of scholarships your school has given out. The confusing part is determining whether other "scholarship" grants to athletes -- academic, etc. -- are exempt from being counted as "athletic scholarships" when it comes to counting up the total scholarships given by the team. I guess the other confusing thing is that each sport (and each NCAA Division) has different rules. So, as was pointed out, wrestling can split up its 9.9 scholarships, whereas D1 women's volleyball cannot. |
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Post by pointps on Dec 17, 2018 17:14:16 GMT -5
That’s very informative. I knew that other sports could split up scholarships, but didn’t know that women’s volleyball cannot. That’s a shame.
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