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Post by jojonito on Oct 19, 2018 14:48:28 GMT -5
Sometimes also when playing an overpass, the ball gets over the net okay, but it ends up being a lollipop for the defense and they get a 3 point pass out of it frequently leading to a kill. Also, I think that sometimes a front row player will reflexively react to knocking the ball over the net. I think it's hard sometimes to do the 'right thing'. Easy to tell players after the fact what they should have done.
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Post by jojonito on Oct 19, 2018 14:50:16 GMT -5
Katie Slay was the master overpass killer. And she was so "slow." But boy was she smart. She read the setter really well. Also had a 3.98 GPA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 15:42:26 GMT -5
Hancock got start against Japan and did good job. Do U think it could be end of Lloyd’s tenure. Think will see Hancock and someone else. Her sets are better they were saying and I saw she went on serving run earlier
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 16:01:25 GMT -5
But boy was she smart. She read the setter really well. Also had a 3.98 GPA. The big rap on Slay on Volleytalk was that she was "slow." It used to upset me. It was obvious that she could intellectually run circles around her opponents--a lot of smarts were involved in her getting her excellent blocking stats. I wasn't aware that her GPA was so high, but I'm not surprised.
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 19, 2018 16:09:57 GMT -5
Hancock got start against Japan and did good job. Do U think it could be end of Lloyd’s tenure. Think will see Hancock and someone else. Her sets are better they were saying and I saw she went on serving run earlier From my limited observations, Lloyd is a bit better than Micha as a blocker, though Micha has definitely improved in that area. Also, Micha has been trying to transition to a jump float serve. I did not see any of the latest matches, and so cannot assess Micha's progress with that skill, but the serving run you saw may indicate that her jump float is getting better too. To my biased observations, Micha has had the fastest hands of the setter group. Also, as the only lefty in the present crop of setters, she can spike on two instead of dump. I would say Micha and Lloyd are about equal running the offense. Lloyd's experience advantage is likely not a big factor anymore. That said, I would not be too quick to project a change in starting setters. Lloyd has been very good, projects an excellent demeanor, and so far as I can see, is well regarded by her teammates and the staff. Micha's start against Japan may have been strategic (eg: keep Micha sharp) rather than a larger indicator.
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Post by Millennium on Oct 19, 2018 17:47:04 GMT -5
Hancock got start against Japan and did good job. Do U think it could be end of Lloyd’s tenure. Think will see Hancock and someone else. Her sets are better they were saying and I saw she went on serving run earlier My guess is that is may be the beginning of the end for Lloyd. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Hancock/Carlini combo at next year's VNL and the Olympics. But more personnel changes are necessary. We need better terminating hitters. The top 3 teams in the world right now all enjoy the same recipe for success - one lethal terminating hitter (Egonu for Italy, Zhu Ting for China, Boskovic for Serbia). Karch needs to make changes going into the Tokyo Olympics, he's not going to win gold with the strategy and players he has now. Of this last statement, I'm very confident, having watched a good portion of the top team matches at the WWC tournament.
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Post by KittanningLion on Oct 19, 2018 18:00:38 GMT -5
Hancock got start against Japan and did good job. Do U think it could be end of Lloyd’s tenure. Think will see Hancock and someone else. Her sets are better they were saying and I saw she went on serving run earlier My guess is that is may be the beginning of the end for Lloyd. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Hancock/Carlini combo at next year's VNL and the Olympics. But more personnel changes are necessary. We need better terminating hitters. The top 3 teams in the world right now all enjoy the same recipe for success - one lethal terminating hitter (Egonu for Italy, Zhu Ting for China, Boskovic for Serbia). Karch needs to make changes going into the Tokyo Olympics, he's not going to win gold with the strategy and players he has now. Of this last statement, I'm very confident, having watched a good portion of the top team matches at the WWC tournament. I agree, Team USA needs a terminating hitter to compete with the top teams in the world. I would add Slöetjes of The Netherlands in that category though. Do you think Micha will be the starting setter for the rest of this quad?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 20:26:34 GMT -5
My guess is that is may be the beginning of the end for Lloyd. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Hancock/Carlini combo at next year's VNL and the Olympics. But more personnel changes are necessary. We need better terminating hitters. The top 3 teams in the world right now all enjoy the same recipe for success - one lethal terminating hitter (Egonu for Italy, Zhu Ting for China, Boskovic for Serbia). Karch needs to make changes going into the Tokyo Olympics, he's not going to win gold with the strategy and players he has now. Of this last statement, I'm very confident, having watched a good portion of the top team matches at the WWC tournament. I agree, Team USA needs a terminating hitter to compete with the top teams in the world. I would add Slöetjes of The Netherlands in that category though. Do you think Micha will be the starting setter for the rest of this quad? I think Hancock places ball in better position for hitters. But both setters struggle with pins not being able to terminate
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Post by Millennium on Oct 19, 2018 20:57:57 GMT -5
My guess is that is may be the beginning of the end for Lloyd. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Hancock/Carlini combo at next year's VNL and the Olympics. But more personnel changes are necessary. We need better terminating hitters. The top 3 teams in the world right now all enjoy the same recipe for success - one lethal terminating hitter (Egonu for Italy, Zhu Ting for China, Boskovic for Serbia). Karch needs to make changes going into the Tokyo Olympics, he's not going to win gold with the strategy and players he has now. Of this last statement, I'm very confident, having watched a good portion of the top team matches at the WWC tournament. I agree, Team USA needs a terminating hitter to compete with the top teams in the world. I would add Slöetjes of The Netherlands in that category though. Do you think Micha will be the starting setter for the rest of this quad? It's tough to say, because Karch basis those decisions on what he sees in the gym versus what we see in games. Also, I agree with Sloetjes being a top hitter.
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Post by nitneliun on Oct 20, 2018 9:19:38 GMT -5
Micha replaced Carli in the match because Carli was having a bad night. I don't know if it was a biorhythm trough or an injury, but she just didn't have it. Carli will be the starting setter through the Tokyo Olympics.
I used to be a Karch supporter, but no more. He has attempted to make players fit his system, rather than using a system in which our best players can thrive. Hooker, Fawcett and Hodge are no longer with the national team because they aren't suited to Karch's fast-paced, low-ball offense. They are, however, the best terminators we have aside from Larsen. Does anyone really think we are going to win Olympic gold with Bartsch?
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Post by seeyajohn on Oct 20, 2018 10:54:39 GMT -5
Hancock got start against Japan and did good job. Do U think it could be end of Lloyd’s tenure. Think will see Hancock and someone else. Her sets are better they were saying and I saw she went on serving run earlier I don't know how the setting position will eventually sort out. But, in watching the Japan match, I was really impressed with the relationship between Micha and Carli. They seem to be working to help each other. Carli is almost playing a mentor role to Micha. I am also impressed that Carli is the team cheerleader when not on the floor.
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Post by Millennium on Oct 20, 2018 15:11:16 GMT -5
Micha replaced Carli in the match because Carli was having a bad night. I don't know if it was a biorhythm trough or an injury, but she just didn't have it. Carli will be the starting setter through the Tokyo Olympics. I used to be a Karch supporter, but no more. He has attempted to make players fit his system, rather than using a system in which our best players can thrive. Hooker, Fawcett and Hodge are no longer with the national team because they aren't suited to Karch's fast-paced, low-ball offense. They are, however, the best terminators we have aside from Larsen. Does anyone really think we are going to win Olympic gold with Bartsch? Actually, Micha replaced Carli midway through set 1 of the Netherlands match because Carli was struggling in that match. Micha started the next match against Japan and played in all 5 sets. That's why I was surprised and wondered whether Carli is injured. I think Karch is losing faith in Carli, hence my reference to the "beginning of the end" for Carli (in Karch's mind). Otherwise he would've started her against Japan and plugged Micha in there if Carli started to struggle again. I agree with you on Karch. I started out as a supporter, but have lost faith after 4 straight losses at this recent WWC tournament.
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