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Post by elliotberton on Nov 3, 2018 14:11:12 GMT -5
Please note that Leath and Reed did not record one block. Leath and Reed had multiple blocks. The stats were wrong all night. |
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Post by treblejig on Nov 3, 2018 14:19:45 GMT -5
Please note that Leath and Reed did not record one block. Leath and Reed had multiple blocks. The stats were wrong all night. Thanks for the update. |
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Post by elliotberton on Nov 3, 2018 14:24:36 GMT -5
Back to my old mantra. We have a lot of freshmen. It's going to take time. As Millennium said, we have trouble terminating. Blocking has also bothered me a fair bit of the time. Seems like our block statistics are okay, but that we don't get nearly the number of soft blocks that we should. I didn't watch sets 3 & 4, but up till that time it seemed that Kendall White had an off night, (or Neb serves were REALLY tough, I'm not sure which). Neb only had one ace but she had a number of overpasses that were put away for points. So used to her just being golden. Service errors really hurt us. In a way, it could be positive (really looking at the glass half full  ), considering how many errors/problems we had, we still went to a 5th set. Tho, as someone said, when your team makes a lot of errors, need to give credit to the team they're playing. I think our blocking and overall defense is quite good. The issue seems to be our hitters struggle with getting around the block or with sets that are a little imperfect. The freshmen will get better, but it is not an easy process. Hord is getting steadily better, and the others have been up and down. The team is doing pretty well. Everyone should just enjoy the ride. |
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Post by elliotberton on Nov 3, 2018 14:29:27 GMT -5
Leath and Reed had multiple blocks. The stats were wrong all night. Thanks for the update. Reed had at least two solo blocks including our last point in the fifth set. |
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Post by jchenot on Nov 3, 2018 15:04:53 GMT -5
Hate to be like this, but I’m excited for next year. A promising sophomore setter with a season under her belt is great. She really is talented (Blossom, that is). Kendall will be Kendall, but on a whole new level in her senior season. Two sophomore middles, who have absolutely wonderful potential. Regardless of how they have been inconsistent, they will be good next year. Jonni will be great, no doubt about it. So excited to see Lauren Clark, and see what Allyson Cathey can bring to the table. It’ll be a good year.
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Post by Millennium on Nov 3, 2018 15:46:11 GMT -5
Hate to be like this, but I’m excited for next year. A promising sophomore setter with a season under her belt is great. She really is talented (Blossom, that is). Kendall will be Kendall, but on a whole new level in her senior season. Two sophomore middles, who have absolutely wonderful potential. Regardless of how they have been inconsistent, they will be good next year. Jonni will be great, no doubt about it. So excited to see Lauren Clark, and see what Allyson Cathey can bring to the table. It’ll be a good year.
Yeah, I'm excited (already) to see what Cathey, Clark, and Ferguson will bring. Bailey might take longer to develop.
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Post by bob2061 on Nov 4, 2018 12:22:09 GMT -5
This must be the battle cry of every team that has a disappointing season. I wonder why we don't attract any elite hitters anymore? Worse yet is that all the other Big Ten teams seem to be overtaking us. We seem to be left with wishful thinking of what could have been. I'm not saying you're wrong Bob, but expecting to continue to win at the rate PSU established from 2007 through 2014 might be a bit unrealistic. We've had this discussion before. There are a lot of moving parts: The composition and location of coaching staffs, and the biggest variable the players: Have you raised daughters? Can you predict what might motivate/attract a variety of 14-16-year-old-girls? From year-to-year? How the players and their parents might evaluate their chances to play as coaching staffs and rosters are in a constant state of flux? For a coach it's got to be like hitting targets that are moving on four axes. It can't be much easier for players and their parents. Every coach wants to get the best players in order to win every year. There simply aren't enough to go around. Are you saying we should lower our expectations? When the going gets tough; the tough get going. |
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Post by nyline on Nov 4, 2018 15:59:00 GMT -5
I'm not saying you're wrong Bob, but expecting to continue to win at the rate PSU established from 2007 through 2014 might be a bit unrealistic. We've had this discussion before. There are a lot of moving parts: The composition and location of coaching staffs, and the biggest variable the players: Have you raised daughters? Can you predict what might motivate/attract a variety of 14-16-year-old-girls? From year-to-year? How the players and their parents might evaluate their chances to play as coaching staffs and rosters are in a constant state of flux? For a coach it's got to be like hitting targets that are moving on four axes. It can't be much easier for players and their parents. Every coach wants to get the best players in order to win every year. There simply aren't enough to go around. Are you saying we should lower our expectations? When the going gets tough; the tough get going. If you're expecting six national championships in eight years, then yes, I think you should lower your expectations. Which is different from lowering your goals. I'm sure Penn State enters every season with multiple goals: winning the Big Ten, getting a top/high seed in the NCAAs, ultimately winning the National Championship. But those are goals -- realistic (usually) goals that are achievable with hard work, more hard work, even more hard work, grit, determination, some luck, dew injuries, and more hard work, grit and a little bit of luck. Do they certainly believe they can win each match before they play it -- but I think achieving the "goal" of winning a National Championship involves so many steps that it's not something the players would describe as an "expectation.". I could be wrong. I think they would say that they understand (at least generally and in the abstract) what will be required to win an NC. |
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Post by nitneliun on Nov 4, 2018 16:31:59 GMT -5
Are you saying we should lower our expectations? When the going gets tough; the tough get going. If you're expecting six national championships in eight years, then yes, I think you should lower your expectations. Which is different from lowering your goals. I'm sure Penn State enters every season with multiple goals: winning the Big Ten, getting a top/high seed in the NCAAs, ultimately winning the National Championship. But those are goals -- realistic (usually) goals that are achievable with hard work, more hard work, even more hard work, grit, determination, some luck, dew injuries, and more hard work, grit and a little bit of luck. Do they certainly believe they can win each match before they play it -- but I think achieving the "goal" of winning a National Championship involves so many steps that it's not something the players would describe as an "expectation.". I could be wrong. I think they would say that they understand (at least generally and in the abstract) what will be required to win an NC. In the words of a very wise man (Bo Nickal), "You go to Penn State, you win big matches, you win titles." |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 18:30:20 GMT -5
I'm not saying you're wrong Bob, but expecting to continue to win at the rate PSU established from 2007 through 2014 might be a bit unrealistic. We've had this discussion before. There are a lot of moving parts: The composition and location of coaching staffs, and the biggest variable the players: Have you raised daughters? Can you predict what might motivate/attract a variety of 14-16-year-old-girls? From year-to-year? How the players and their parents might evaluate their chances to play as coaching staffs and rosters are in a constant state of flux? For a coach it's got to be like hitting targets that are moving on four axes. It can't be much easier for players and their parents. Every coach wants to get the best players in order to win every year. There simply aren't enough to go around. Are you saying we should lower our expectations? When the going gets tough; the tough get going. I've heard that some tough guys go and pick a different team. |
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Post by nyline on Nov 4, 2018 18:36:53 GMT -5
If you're expecting six national championships in eight years, then yes, I think you should lower your expectations. Which is different from lowering your goals. I'm sure Penn State enters every season with multiple goals: winning the Big Ten, getting a top/high seed in the NCAAs, ultimately winning the National Championship. But those are goals -- realistic (usually) goals that are achievable with hard work, more hard work, even more hard work, grit, determination, some luck, dew injuries, and more hard work, grit and a little bit of luck. Do they certainly believe they can win each match before they play it -- but I think achieving the "goal" of winning a National Championship involves so many steps that it's not something the players would describe as an "expectation.". I could be wrong. I think they would say that they understand (at least generally and in the abstract) what will be required to win an NC. In the words of a very wise man (Bo Nickal), "You go to Penn State, you win big matches, you win titles." I just knew someone would quote Bo. But there are so many differences between the two sports, not the least of which is D1 volleyball played at something like 300 schools, with approximately 3000 scholarship atheletes, versus D1 wrestling with maybe 80 schools (I really don't know) and maybe 800 scholarship athletes. Also, multiple consecutive National Championships is almost a tradition in college wrestling -- Iowa and others have done it numerous times. In D1 wen's volleyball, it's Penn State's 6 in 8 years (with 4 straight) then three, maybe 4 schools with two in a row. I think true dynasties are much harder to build in women's volleyball. But I take your point. And Bo is great -- loved that moment. |
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Post by Millennium on Nov 4, 2018 18:44:51 GMT -5
If you're expecting six national championships in eight years, then yes, I think you should lower your expectations. Which is different from lowering your goals. I'm sure Penn State enters every season with multiple goals: winning the Big Ten, getting a top/high seed in the NCAAs, ultimately winning the National Championship. But those are goals -- realistic (usually) goals that are achievable with hard work, more hard work, even more hard work, grit, determination, some luck, dew injuries, and more hard work, grit and a little bit of luck. Do they certainly believe they can win each match before they play it -- but I think achieving the "goal" of winning a National Championship involves so many steps that it's not something the players would describe as an "expectation.". I could be wrong. I think they would say that they understand (at least generally and in the abstract) what will be required to win an NC. In the words of a very wise man (Bo Nickal), "You go to Penn State, you win big matches, you win titles."
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Post by Millennium on Nov 4, 2018 18:46:04 GMT -5
Are you saying we should lower our expectations? When the going gets tough; the tough get going. I've heard that some tough guys go and pick a different team.
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Post by nyline on Nov 4, 2018 19:09:39 GMT -5
I've deleted all the posts that related to the photos posted by Nebraska from the Nebraska-Penn State match. It looks like things got out of hand and things that were written were ill-advised, or misconstrued, or written in anger. None of it was productive. Let's drop this. If Nebraska (the member, not the state) wishes to post some pictures from the match with both Penn State and Nebraska players among them in relatively equal number, great. If not, that's OK too.
Just as a reminder, here are my thoughts about posting on this Forum:
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), considering how many errors/problems we had, we still went to a 5th set. Tho, as someone said, when your team makes a lot of errors, need to give credit to the team they're playing.
