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Post by Millennium on Jan 11, 2019 18:07:17 GMT -5
Wonder if Auburn’s Taylor Rowland May be in the mix as a pin hitter for penn state Former top 30 senior aces and looking for a new home Would solve the immediate issues around outside hitters and is apparently a 6 rotation player None of us knows who is on full 4 year scholarships and it’s possible that coach has one available It’s also possible that the only senior on the team (redshirt as I recall) is not asked back - perhaps the 3 frosh middies are ready
Nice post. Seems like an interesting player, if she can play 6 rotations.
My only knock on her is that she hit .176 for the season in 2018, although, that could be due to many reasons.
The most interesting thing I read was your last sentence. That's an intriguing possibility even though there's only 1 year left.
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Post by nyline on Jan 11, 2019 19:13:29 GMT -5
Wonder if Auburn’s Taylor Rowland May be in the mix as a pin hitter for penn state Former top 30 senior aces and looking for a new home Would solve the immediate issues around outside hitters and is apparently a 6 rotation player None of us knows who is on full 4 year scholarships and it’s possible that coach has one available It’s also possible that the only senior on the team (redshirt as I recall) is not asked back - perhaps the 3 frosh middies are ready
Nice post. Seems like an interesting player, if she can play 6 rotations.
My only knock on her is that she hit .176 for the season in 2018, although, that could be due to many reasons.
The most interesting thing I read was your last sentence. That's an intriguing possibility even though there's only 1 year left.
I know it's inevitable in a message board when people are talking about transfers and recruiting, but I have to say I'm really uncomfortable speculating about players not being invited back or otherwise suggesting we'd like current players to leave the team. They're on the team now --and the player you're talking about was critical in the team's success up to the Regional Finals this year. We don't need to enter into those kinds of calculations in order to talk about whether a player like Taylor Rowland would be helpful to the team. (Steps gingerly off soapbox.)
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Post by Millennium on Jan 11, 2019 22:12:04 GMT -5
Nice post. Seems like an interesting player, if she can play 6 rotations.
My only knock on her is that she hit .176 for the season in 2018, although, that could be due to many reasons.
The most interesting thing I read was your last sentence. That's an intriguing possibility even though there's only 1 year left.
I know it's inevitable in a message board when people are talking about transfers and recruiting, but I have to say I'm really uncomfortable speculating about players not being invited back or otherwise suggesting we'd like current players to leave the team. They're on the team now --and the player you're talking about was critical in the team's success up to the Regional Finals this year. We don't need to enter into those kinds of calculations in order to talk about whether a player like Taylor Rowland would be helpful to the team. (Steps gingerly off soapbox.)
I'm simply discussing possibilities of what might or might not be. Turnover of rosters/players happens a lot in the college game and is a big part of discussions in the off season. I'm certainly not criticizing anyone. If conversations cannot be had on a message board, then where? Shunning talk about the reality of dealing with scholarships and rosters is silly, IMO.
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Post by nyline on Jan 11, 2019 22:51:03 GMT -5
I know it's inevitable in a message board when people are talking about transfers and recruiting, but I have to say I'm really uncomfortable speculating about players not being invited back or otherwise suggesting we'd like current players to leave the team. They're on the team now --and the player you're talking about was critical in the team's success up to the Regional Finals this year. We don't need to enter into those kinds of calculations in order to talk about whether a player like Taylor Rowland would be helpful to the team. (Steps gingerly off soapbox.)
I'm simply discussing possibilities of what might or might not be. Turnover of rosters/players happens a lot in the college game and is a big part of discussions in the off season. I'm certainly not criticizing anyone. If conversations cannot be had on a message board, then where? Shunning talk about the reality of dealing with scholarships and rosters is silly, IMO. Of course the conversation can take place -- it is taking place. I simply am uncomfortable talking about the prospect of players being jettisoned. I may well be a minority of one on that point, and may have that minority status impressed on me by other posters.
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Post by elliotberton on Jan 12, 2019 3:06:00 GMT -5
I think Tori is going to be one of the two captains. She sets an excellent example of doing what's best for the team and being ready when needed. I don't think we will see any transfers even though replacing Taylor will be difficult.
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Post by AcePresser on Jan 12, 2019 5:18:52 GMT -5
So I guess no Kami Miner to PSU then?
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner.
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Post by Millennium on Jan 12, 2019 8:02:13 GMT -5
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner.
Figures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 9:20:26 GMT -5
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner. Welcome to our happy place.
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Post by pennstate1973 on Jan 12, 2019 11:41:28 GMT -5
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner. Is that something you have personal knowledge about or is it what you read on another message board? I don't put much stock in speculation on message boards. It almost never is a player's family or club coach who posts something like this.
I also welcome you to dignittany.com.
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Post by pennstate1973 on Jan 12, 2019 11:44:41 GMT -5
I'm simply discussing possibilities of what might or might not be. Turnover of rosters/players happens a lot in the college game and is a big part of discussions in the off season. I'm certainly not criticizing anyone. If conversations cannot be had on a message board, then where? Shunning talk about the reality of dealing with scholarships and rosters is silly, IMO. Of course the conversation can take place -- it is taking place. I simply am uncomfortable talking about the prospect of players being jettisoned. I may well be a minority of one on that point, and may have that minority status impressed on me by other posters. I refuse to believe Russ would rescind a scholarship he committed in good faith. I can't see it happening. The story would get out and the coaching staff would suffer major damage to its reputation. Now if the player decided grad school is not in her plans, that's possible.
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Post by bob2061 on Jan 15, 2019 8:47:52 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere.
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Post by elliotberton on Jan 15, 2019 17:06:46 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere. I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play.
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Post by stillkicking on Jan 15, 2019 17:33:17 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere. I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play. Ditto as a parent I would want to make sure my child was secure.
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Post by nyline on Jan 15, 2019 19:44:20 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere. I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play. Bob addresses one situation explicitly: 1) that college "is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try" -- hard to argue with that. But there's a second situation: that some players may be better off elsewhere, not because they "fail to even try," but rather because they turn out not to be as talented or proficient as was hoped when they were recruited (sometimes due to injury) -- even though they may well be trying very hard indeed. In both cases, they may well have a better chance of playing elsewhere. But Bob's first point is totally irrelevant when the problem is not that the player isn't trying, but that they aren't as good as was hoped, or because of injury are no longer the player they once were. As long as players are trying, I think they deserve their scholarships. Darcy Dorton is a great example of a player who was significantly slowed by injury, and who chose to transfer to College of Charleston in order to keep on playing. She continued to root for Penn State and I'm obviously still a big fan of hers.
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Post by bob2061 on Jan 16, 2019 8:21:15 GMT -5
I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play. Bob addresses one situation explicitly: 1) that college "is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try" -- hard to argue with that. But there's a second situation: that some players may be better off elsewhere, not because they "fail to even try," but rather because they turn out not to be as talented or proficient as was hoped when they were recruited (sometimes due to injury) -- even though they may well be trying very hard indeed. In both cases, they may well have a better chance of playing elsewhere. But Bob's first point is totally irrelevant when the problem is not that the player isn't trying, but that they aren't as good as was hoped, or because of injury are no longer the player they once were. As long as players are trying, I think they deserve their scholarships. Darcy Dorton is a great example of a player who was significantly slowed by injury, and who chose to transfer to College of Charleston in order to keep on playing. She continued to root for Penn State and I'm obviously still a big fan of hers. Better worded by you. My point was that when a player fails to reach or return to a level of performance Russ should work to help the player find her best situation where she can still find a good education along with the enjoyment of playing volleyball. I do not believe a player could be happy as a chronic bench filler while younger players get the playing time on the court year after year. I know that Russ would go out of his way to help those players to find situations where they could fulfill all their dreams. BTW Darcy thanks Russ for his assistance.
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