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Post by elliotberton on Jan 12, 2019 3:06:00 GMT -5
I think Tori is going to be one of the two captains. She sets an excellent example of doing what's best for the team and being ready when needed. I don't think we will see any transfers even though replacing Taylor will be difficult.
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Post by AcePresser on Jan 12, 2019 5:18:52 GMT -5
So I guess no Kami Miner to PSU then?
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner.
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Post by Millennium on Jan 12, 2019 8:02:13 GMT -5
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner.
Figures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 9:20:26 GMT -5
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner. Welcome to our happy place.
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Post by pennstate1973 on Jan 12, 2019 11:41:28 GMT -5
I was reading up on her on VT. They say she's a setter and I believe still uncommitted. Her top choices are TX, PSU, and maybe USC.
Stanford is the front runner. Is that something you have personal knowledge about or is it what you read on another message board? I don't put much stock in speculation on message boards. It almost never is a player's family or club coach who posts something like this.
I also welcome you to dignittany.com.
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Post by pennstate1973 on Jan 12, 2019 11:44:41 GMT -5
I'm simply discussing possibilities of what might or might not be. Turnover of rosters/players happens a lot in the college game and is a big part of discussions in the off season. I'm certainly not criticizing anyone. If conversations cannot be had on a message board, then where? Shunning talk about the reality of dealing with scholarships and rosters is silly, IMO. Of course the conversation can take place -- it is taking place. I simply am uncomfortable talking about the prospect of players being jettisoned. I may well be a minority of one on that point, and may have that minority status impressed on me by other posters. I refuse to believe Russ would rescind a scholarship he committed in good faith. I can't see it happening. The story would get out and the coaching staff would suffer major damage to its reputation. Now if the player decided grad school is not in her plans, that's possible.
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Post by bob2061 on Jan 15, 2019 8:47:52 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere.
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Post by elliotberton on Jan 15, 2019 17:06:46 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere. I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play.
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Post by stillkicking on Jan 15, 2019 17:33:17 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere. I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play. Ditto as a parent I would want to make sure my child was secure.
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Post by nyline on Jan 15, 2019 19:44:20 GMT -5
I have no problem with PSU giving out scholarships on a yearly basis based on merit. College is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try. Russ is actually doing them a favor by giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere. I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play. Bob addresses one situation explicitly: 1) that college "is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try" -- hard to argue with that. But there's a second situation: that some players may be better off elsewhere, not because they "fail to even try," but rather because they turn out not to be as talented or proficient as was hoped when they were recruited (sometimes due to injury) -- even though they may well be trying very hard indeed. In both cases, they may well have a better chance of playing elsewhere. But Bob's first point is totally irrelevant when the problem is not that the player isn't trying, but that they aren't as good as was hoped, or because of injury are no longer the player they once were. As long as players are trying, I think they deserve their scholarships. Darcy Dorton is a great example of a player who was significantly slowed by injury, and who chose to transfer to College of Charleston in order to keep on playing. She continued to root for Penn State and I'm obviously still a big fan of hers.
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Post by bob2061 on Jan 16, 2019 8:21:15 GMT -5
I obviously don't know how scholarships are handled. However, as a parent, if I had a child talented enough to be recruited by top schools, I would not even consider making a commitment unless the recruiters offered a full 4/5 year scholarship. Since it seems like verbal commitments are sought from high school Sophomores, I would guess that the most highly regarded kids are consistently promised a full ride for so long as they are eligible to play. Bob addresses one situation explicitly: 1) that college "is not a charity to reward those who fail to even try" -- hard to argue with that. But there's a second situation: that some players may be better off elsewhere, not because they "fail to even try," but rather because they turn out not to be as talented or proficient as was hoped when they were recruited (sometimes due to injury) -- even though they may well be trying very hard indeed. In both cases, they may well have a better chance of playing elsewhere. But Bob's first point is totally irrelevant when the problem is not that the player isn't trying, but that they aren't as good as was hoped, or because of injury are no longer the player they once were. As long as players are trying, I think they deserve their scholarships. Darcy Dorton is a great example of a player who was significantly slowed by injury, and who chose to transfer to College of Charleston in order to keep on playing. She continued to root for Penn State and I'm obviously still a big fan of hers. Better worded by you. My point was that when a player fails to reach or return to a level of performance Russ should work to help the player find her best situation where she can still find a good education along with the enjoyment of playing volleyball. I do not believe a player could be happy as a chronic bench filler while younger players get the playing time on the court year after year. I know that Russ would go out of his way to help those players to find situations where they could fulfill all their dreams. BTW Darcy thanks Russ for his assistance.
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Post by pointps on Jan 16, 2019 10:09:37 GMT -5
One can fulfill a lot of dreams in Charleston. It's beautiful and CoC is beautiful.
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Post by tillie on Jan 16, 2019 14:32:16 GMT -5
WHO is the highly touted Puerto Rican setter who spent I believe 2 years here and then transferred to a school in the Mid West and I noted that she received high honors for herself and the team?
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Post by tillie on Jan 16, 2019 14:39:14 GMT -5
pete 1919:
I do not think players who are on the team are invited back. They are considered full time until THEY DECIDE THAT PSU is not for them. Players seek to leave after determining that PSU is not for them and then receive "good lucks" from Russ et al and help if needed. If they do not want to be here then there will be no objections from the BOSS
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Post by KittanningLion on Jan 16, 2019 15:27:06 GMT -5
WHO is the highly touted Puerto Rican setter who spent I believe 2 years here and then transferred to a school in the Mid West and I noted that she received high honors for herself and the team? Must be Rivera. She transferred to Louisville.
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