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Post by nyline on Sept 25, 2017 7:37:47 GMT -5
Where do you think Penn State will land in today's AVCA Poll? Vote in the poll, and add your own top 5 (or whatever). I'm guessing #5. Weigh in  |
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Post by traveler on Sept 25, 2017 13:52:59 GMT -5
Just surprised that we beat Stan 2x and are ranked behind...and they didn't look good in 5 sets v unranked CO yesterday.
Oh, well, tied w/MN for 3rd....wondered if they'd find parity for us.
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Post by traveler on Sept 25, 2017 13:53:44 GMT -5
BTW, Wisky dropped 2 places to 7
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Post by nyline on Sept 25, 2017 13:55:54 GMT -5
Just surprised that we beat Stan 2x and are ranked behind...and they didn't look good in 5 sets v unranked CO yesterday. Oh, well, tied w/MN for 3rd....wondered if they'd find parity for us. That really is odd -- but the AVCA poll often is characterized by "odd." Maybe the thought process (if that isn't gilding the lily) for some voters was "Stanford is better than Nebraska. Nebraska beat Penn State. The two matches between Stanford and Penn State were closer than the Nebraska match against Penn State. Ergo, Stanford is better than Penn State." |
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Post by traveler on Sept 25, 2017 13:58:35 GMT -5
Coach Rose:
Florida 1
Minnesota 2
Wisconsin 3
Penn State 4
Stanford 5
Washington 6
Nebraska 7
Texas 8
BYU 9
Michigan State 10
Kentucky 11
Oregon 12
Kansas 13
Creighton 14
UCLA 15
Utah 16
Purdue 17
Iowa State 18
San Diego 19
Florida State 20
Southern California 21
Michigan 22
Colorado 23
Illinois 24
Ohio State 25
based on this, I'd say he still believes we should have beaten NE on Friday, and that he has noted OSU's sudden show of strength.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 14:23:58 GMT -5
Coach Rose: Florida 1 Minnesota 2 Wisconsin 3 Penn State 4 Stanford 5 Washington 6 Nebraska 7 Texas 8 BYU 9 Michigan State 10 Kentucky 11 Oregon 12 Kansas 13 Creighton 14 UCLA 15 Utah 16 Purdue 17 Iowa State 18 San Diego 19 Florida State 20 Southern California 21 Michigan 22 Colorado 23 Illinois 24 Ohio State 25 based on this, I'd say he still believes we should have beaten NE on Friday, and that he has noted OSU's sudden show of strength. He doesn't sugarcoat things. His rankings give me hope. |
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Post by psumaui on Sept 25, 2017 14:59:36 GMT -5
Coach Rose: Florida 1 Minnesota 2 Wisconsin 3 Penn State 4 Stanford 5 Washington 6 Nebraska 7 Texas 8 BYU 9 Michigan State 10 Kentucky 11 Oregon 12 Kansas 13 Creighton 14 UCLA 15 Utah 16 Purdue 17 Iowa State 18 San Diego 19 Florida State 20 Southern California 21 Michigan 22 Colorado 23 Illinois 24 Ohio State 25 based on this, I'd say he still believes we should have beaten NE on Friday, and that he has noted OSU's sudden show of strength. We definitely should have beaten NE on Friday. He had a game plan but that plan wasn't executed. I remember his statement about them putting a game plan together during the playoffs and if they executed that plan they should win but also said that the team has to buy into that game plan in order for it to work. I hope that Russ has his coaches better prepare the team this coming weekend against Illini and Northwestern. |
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Post by nyline on Sept 25, 2017 15:08:21 GMT -5
Based on Friday night's press conference, I am certain Coach Rose and the staff share your hope.
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Post by psumaui on Sept 25, 2017 15:09:24 GMT -5
Just surprised that we beat Stan 2x and are ranked behind...and they didn't look good in 5 sets v unranked CO yesterday. Oh, well, tied w/MN for 3rd....wondered if they'd find parity for us. That really is odd -- but the AVCA poll often is characterized by "odd." Maybe the thought process (if that isn't gilding the lily) for some voters was "Stanford is better than Nebraska. Nebraska beat Penn State. The two matches between Stanford and Penn State were closer than the Nebraska match against Penn State. Ergo, Stanford is better than Penn State." I figured that this would happen even though I predicted they would be below Penn State, the voters like Stanford better (it's their personal "feelings"). Has nothing to do with who is better. They just needed an excuse to put Stanford above Penn State and last weekend was their chance. As for Stanford, they don't have a cakewalk thru conference play. They play Utah which when they play at Utah, it's kinda like playing in Iowa (football). Very tough to get a win there (I think it's the altitude) and the Uts are ranked this season but lucky for Stanford they only play them once and at home. They get to play Washington twice this year so those matches would be interesting to watch and then there are the two unpredictable teams of UCLA and USC. |
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Post by traveler on Sept 25, 2017 15:17:09 GMT -5
And to beat a dead horse, MN lost to AN UNRANKED team. PSU lost to #14. Whisky was punished more harshly for losing to the same team MN lost to. Not that i have a problem w/Wisky being punished.
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Post by Millennium on Sept 25, 2017 15:20:45 GMT -5
Stanford always gets preferential treatment in the minds of voters, for whatever reason.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 15:31:23 GMT -5
Stanford always gets preferential treatment in the minds of voters, for whatever reason. I think they're in awe of Volleytalk's longest running thread, and vote accordingly. |
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Post by psumaui on Sept 25, 2017 15:53:19 GMT -5
All three rankings still have us at #2 (Pablo, RPKI and Rich Kern). Should we win both matches this weekend, I think this is where the 1st RPI ranking will have us at, which would be fine with me.
Other teams rankings
Rich Kern Pablo RPKI
Florida 1 3 1
Stanford 3 5 10
MN 4 1 3
TX 5 6 5
WA 6 8 4
NE 7 7 13
The 4 that voted Stanford #1 which put them above Penn State and MN was:
Melissa Batie-Smoose (Holy Cross)
Rose Shires (Omaha)
Toby Rens (Maryland Eastern Shore)
Ray Gooden (Northern Illinois)
Penn State vote came from:
Tim Horsman (Dayton)
Minnesota vote came from:
Karen Chisum (Texas State)
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Post by nyline on Sept 25, 2017 16:39:39 GMT -5
And to beat a dead horse, MN lost to AN UNRANKED team. PSU lost to #14. Whisky was punished more harshly for losing to the same team MN lost to. Not that i have a problem w/Wisky being punished. When it comes to analyzing polls, I am all for dead horse beating! |
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Post by psumaui on Sept 25, 2017 17:40:28 GMT -5
Here is something to ponder. We will never know what would have happened had Florida played Michigan State because it wasn't re-scheduled due to the hurricane.
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