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Post by yogi on Dec 1, 2019 20:41:37 GMT -5
They are enamored with us playing Stanford and put us in the Stanford regional bracket again...ughhh!
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Post by nyline on Dec 1, 2019 20:49:06 GMT -5
You have to win six no matter where. So, let's go Penn State!
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Post by jojonito on Dec 1, 2019 21:43:28 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the B1G does this year. Getting a lot of disrespect on Volleytalk; pretty much think all of BiG teams were seeded too high; except, amazingly enough, Penn State. I was expecting PSU to be 13-14; never dreamed that they'd be 11. Course, I'd much rather be 16, 15 or 13 to avoid getting Stanford. This goes back to, it doesn't matter your seed, it's your bracket that's the big deal. Whew! I was misreading the brackets and thought that PSU would meet Stanford for the 3rd match not 4th. Course,they still have to beat Pitt.
I wonder if NCAA committee seeded the B1G teams higher cuz of their great record in the NCAA tournament. 6 out of 7 or 8 teams in the last 3 years made it to the Sweet 16. Someone on Volleytalk did a calculation of the best conference in the last 10 or so years. The B1G was by far the best. Pac 12 overall record in the NCAA tournament is not that good, considering that they usually have the same nbr of teams in that the B1G does, or within one.
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Post by jojonito on Dec 1, 2019 21:45:31 GMT -5
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Post by coolbean on Dec 1, 2019 21:49:45 GMT -5
If #22 plays decent, PSU has a chance
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 21:55:29 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the B1G does this year. Getting a lot of disrespect on Volleytalk; pretty much think all of BiG teams were seeded too high; except, amazingly enough, Penn State. I was expecting PSU to be 13-14; never dreamed that they'd be 11. Course, I'd much rather be 16, 15 or 13 to avoid getting Stanford. This goes back to, it doesn't matter your seed, it's your bracket that's the big deal. Whew! I was misreading the brackets and thought that PSU would meet Stanford for the 3rd match not 4th. Course,they still have to beat Pitt. I wonder if NCAA committee seeded the B1G teams higher cuz of their great record in the NCAA tournament. 6 out of 7 or 8 teams in the last 3 years made it to the Sweet 16. Someone on Volleytalk did a calculation of the best conference in the last 10 or so years. The B1G was by far the best. Pac 12 overall record in the NCAA tournament is not that good, considering that they usually have the same nbr of teams in that the B1G does, or within one. I think people are taking issue with wisky being ahead of Pitt and Nebraska jumping Pitt is ridiculous. Think that’s where most the anger is. Nobody has said much about psu or ninny and if Nebraska would have been 6 instead of 5 their would still be argument over 4 but not as much as Nebraska jumping them also |
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Post by jojonito on Dec 1, 2019 22:17:29 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the B1G does this year. Getting a lot of disrespect on Volleytalk; pretty much think all of BiG teams were seeded too high; except, amazingly enough, Penn State. I was expecting PSU to be 13-14; never dreamed that they'd be 11. Course, I'd much rather be 16, 15 or 13 to avoid getting Stanford. This goes back to, it doesn't matter your seed, it's your bracket that's the big deal. Whew! I was misreading the brackets and thought that PSU would meet Stanford for the 3rd match not 4th. Course,they still have to beat Pitt. I wonder if NCAA committee seeded the B1G teams higher cuz of their great record in the NCAA tournament. 6 out of 7 or 8 teams in the last 3 years made it to the Sweet 16. Someone on Volleytalk did a calculation of the best conference in the last 10 or so years. The B1G was by far the best. Pac 12 overall record in the NCAA tournament is not that good, considering that they usually have the same nbr of teams in that the B1G does, or within one. I think people are taking issue with wisky being ahead of Pitt and Nebraska jumping Pitt is ridiculous. Think that’s where most the anger is. Nobody has said much about psu or ninny and if Nebraska would have been 6 instead of 5 their would still be argument over 4 but not as much as Nebraska jumping them also Maybe so. By the same token, the best win by Pitt is a win over an #11 seed (PSU), and then got beat by them at home. Pitt hasn't played anybody that is any good. Any decent team can beat up on a lot of weak sisters. I never thought that Pitt should be ranked in the top 4. Again, they only played one good team the entire year. This is where, IMHO, B1G teams get penalized because they play more high quality teams. Or at least they can. PSU sure didn't this year compared to most years. But, can only play who is on the schedule. Like I mentioned above. B1G teams have significantly outplayed their seed in the last 10 years. |
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Post by jojonito on Dec 1, 2019 22:20:35 GMT -5
Stanford wasn't done any favors. Got BYU in their bracket and PSU, both teams that have given them problems. Not that I expect Stanford to lose, but hey, anything is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 22:26:22 GMT -5
I think people are taking issue with wisky being ahead of Pitt and Nebraska jumping Pitt is ridiculous. Think that’s where most the anger is. Nobody has said much about psu or ninny and if Nebraska would have been 6 instead of 5 their would still be argument over 4 but not as much as Nebraska jumping them also Maybe so. By the same token, the best win by Pitt is a win over an #11 seed (PSU), and then got beat by them at home. Pitt hasn't played anybody that is any good. Any decent team can beat up on a lot of weak sisters. I never thought that Pitt should be ranked in the top 4. Again, they only played one good team the entire year. This is where, IMHO, B1G teams get penalized because they play more high quality teams. Or at least they can. PSU sure didn't this year compared to most years. But, can only play who is on the schedule. Like I mentioned above. B1G teams have significantly outplayed their seed in the last 10 years. Hey I get what your saying and I can vouch for a team ahead of another with more losses but not 5 more losses |
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Post by stillkicking on Dec 2, 2019 8:56:59 GMT -5
Well, we are at the time of the year when polls and RPI's mean nothing, it's do or die, and may the best team win, come on PSU we are ROOTING FOR YOU " WE ARE "
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Post by offonvictory on Dec 2, 2019 9:34:42 GMT -5
It looks like the committee tried to avoid seeded Big Ten teams facing each other before regional final. If seeds hold, Big Ten seeded matchups in regional semis would be #4 Wisc vs. #13 TAMU, #5 Neb vs. #12 Hawaii, #7 Minn vs. #10 UF, #11 PSU vs. #6 Pitt, #16 Pur vs. #1 Baylor.
The only non-Big Ten regional semis matchups are:
#2 Texas vs. #15 WKU
#3 Stanford vs. #14 BYU
#8 Wash vs. #9 UK
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Post by nyline on Dec 2, 2019 10:17:49 GMT -5
It looks like the committee tried to avoid seeded Big Ten teams facing each other before regional final. If seeds hold, Big Ten seeded matchups in regional semis would be #4 Wisc vs. #13 TAMU, #5 Neb vs. #12 Hawaii, #7 Minn vs. #10 UF, #11 PSU vs. #6 Pitt, #16 Pur vs. #1 Baylor. The only non-Big Ten regional semis matchups are: #2 Texas vs. #15 WKU #3 Stanford vs. #14 BYU #8 Wash vs. #9 UK I like a matchup vs. Pitt -- I think we would do fine. |
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Post by nitneliun on Dec 2, 2019 10:27:44 GMT -5
Also, pretty amusing in that Hawaii probably will meet Nebraska. That thread will probably be hundreds of pages long. They are two of the teams whose fans post the most.  Not to mention they are two of the most obnoxious groups of fans. I suspect that game thread will result in many bans. |
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Post by NittanyLions on Dec 2, 2019 10:29:19 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the B1G does this year. Getting a lot of disrespect on Volleytalk; pretty much think all of BiG teams were seeded too high; except, amazingly enough, Penn State. I was expecting PSU to be 13-14; never dreamed that they'd be 11. Course, I'd much rather be 16, 15 or 13 to avoid getting Stanford. This goes back to, it doesn't matter your seed, it's your bracket that's the big deal. Whew! I was misreading the brackets and thought that PSU would meet Stanford for the 3rd match not 4th. Course,they still have to beat Pitt. I wonder if NCAA committee seeded the B1G teams higher cuz of their great record in the NCAA tournament. 6 out of 7 or 8 teams in the last 3 years made it to the Sweet 16. Someone on Volleytalk did a calculation of the best conference in the last 10 or so years. The B1G was by far the best. Pac 12 overall record in the NCAA tournament is not that good, considering that they usually have the same nbr of teams in that the B1G does, or within one.
I put together a thread on VT with some historical data over the past 13 years showing tournament seeds, RPI, and results. Big Ten has historically been better than the Pac 12 in the tournament money rounds over that span.
I bet the results are even better if we narrow down the range to include only the past 6-7 years.
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Post by nitneliun on Dec 2, 2019 10:30:10 GMT -5
It looks like the committee tried to avoid seeded Big Ten teams facing each other before regional final. If seeds hold, Big Ten seeded matchups in regional semis would be #4 Wisc vs. #13 TAMU, #5 Neb vs. #12 Hawaii, #7 Minn vs. #10 UF, #11 PSU vs. #6 Pitt, #16 Pur vs. #1 Baylor. The only non-Big Ten regional semis matchups are: #2 Texas vs. #15 WKU #3 Stanford vs. #14 BYU #8 Wash vs. #9 UK I like a matchup vs. Pitt -- I think we would do fine. Same here. Pitt hasn't played a quality opponent since September. PSU, on the other hand, ........
Iron sharpens iron.
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