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Post by stillkicking on Sept 27, 2021 18:57:16 GMT -5
I looked up Libero in the dictionary, and there was a picture of Kendall. Just kidding, but there should be.
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Post by seeyajohn on Oct 23, 2021 0:04:04 GMT -5
For those who were confused by the rules regarding libero substitution, there was a sequence in set 2 of the Minnesota match that will either explain or further obfuscate the rule. As you follow this, remember that the only person who can sub for Hampton is the one that Hampton subbed for. The team started the match in Ro 1 which places Hord up front and Holland in the back. So, before the first point was played, Hampton subbed for Holland.With the score at 2-5, it was time for Hord to move to the back row. So, Holland subbed for Hampton and immediately Hampton subbed for Hord. That left Hampton serving at 2-5 with Holland in front. At a score of 6-11, it was time for Holland to rotate to the back. Russ wanted Menger to serve in place of Holland. So, Hord subbed for Hampton and Menger subbed for Holland. Thus Hord was in front and Menger in back. When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. Then since Hampton was on the floor already, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hord and Hampton served. Then at 15-18, it was time for Hord to reenter as Holland moved to the back row to serve. So, Menger subbed for Hampton and immediately Hord subbed for Menger.
Of course, as soon as Holland finished serving, Hampton subbed for Holland.
Since no substitution involving Hampton counted against PSU's allotment, these sequences amounted to 3 substitutions.
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Post by nyline on Oct 23, 2021 8:37:47 GMT -5
For those who were confused by the rules regarding libero substitution, there was a sequence in set 2 of the Minnesota match that will either explain or further obfuscate the rule. As you follow this, remember that the only person who can sub for Hampton is the one that Hampton subbed for. The team started the match in Ro 1 which places Hord up front and Holland in the back. So, before the first point was played, Hampton subbed for Holland.With the score at 2-5, it was time for Hord to move to the back row. So, Holland subbed for Hampton and immediately Hampton subbed for Hord. That left Hampton serving at 2-5 with Holland in front. At a score of 6-11, it was time for Holland to rotate to the back. Russ wanted Menger to serve in place of Holland. So, Hord subbed for Hampton and Menger subbed for Holland. Thus Hord was in front and Menger in back. When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. Then since Hampton was on the floor already, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hord and Hampton served. Then at 15-18, it was time for Hord to reenter as Holland moved to the back row to serve. So, Menger subbed for Hampton and immediately Hord subbed for Menger.
Of course, as soon as Holland finished serving, Hampton subbed for Holland.
Since no substitution involving Hampton counted against PSU's allotment, these sequences amounted to 3 substitutions.
This is the best explanation of a libero substitution pattern I've ever seen! You often see the phrase "It's plain to see in black and white." Well, it's plainer to see in pink, and green and blue and purple (and black and white) !!! Well done!!!! |
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Post by jojonito on Oct 23, 2021 14:12:34 GMT -5
<<At a score of 6-11, it was time for Holland to rotate to the back. Russ wanted Menger to serve in place of Holland. So, Hord subbed for Hampton and Menger subbed for Holland. Thus Hord was in front and Menger in back.>> When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. Then since Hampton was on the floor already, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hord and Hampton served.
Thanks for the explanation!! One question. When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. So far so good. But, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Hampton would be in the left back position and ready to move to the front row. So wouldn't Holland substitute for Hampton and then Hampton substitute for Hord? So then the 2nd part would be: When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. When it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hampton and Hampton subbed for Hord and Hampton served.Thanks again for your explanation. I appreciate your comments and explantions. I really like your rotation analysis. I'm sure it takes a lot of time to figure all that out. |
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Post by seeyajohn on Oct 23, 2021 17:02:38 GMT -5
<<At a score of 6-11, it was time for Holland to rotate to the back. Russ wanted Menger to serve in place of Holland. So, Hord subbed for Hampton and Menger subbed for Holland. Thus Hord was in front and Menger in back.>> When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. Then since Hampton was on the floor already, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hord and Hampton served.
Thanks for the explanation!! One question. When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. So far so good. But, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Hampton would be in the left back position and ready to move to the front row. So wouldn't Holland substitute for Hampton and then Hampton substitute for Hord? So then the 2nd part would be: When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. When it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hampton and Hampton subbed for Hord and Hampton served.The problem is that Holland could not sub for Hampton because Hampton had subbed for Menger. Only Menger could sub for Hampton.
However, I too wondered about Hampton's position in the rotation at the time when Holland subbed for Hord and Jenna served. Jenna seemed to move from the back left to the back right (basically in Hord's spot) while Holland took over at the left front! All of which returned things to the rotation that started the set. Like you, I was curious about how that worked. I found a power point presentation about libero rules ( here) that, among much more, covers exactly the Holland for Hord situation and it shows specifically the substitution that occurred and results in the libero serving as the sub takes over at left front. |
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Post by jojonito on Oct 23, 2021 17:18:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation!! One question. When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. So far so good. But, when it was time for Hord to move to the back, Hampton would be in the left back position and ready to move to the front row. So wouldn't Holland substitute for Hampton and then Hampton substitute for Hord? So then the 2nd part would be: When Quinn finished serving Hampton subbed for Menger. When it was time for Hord to move to the back, Holland subbed for Hampton and Hampton subbed for Hord and Hampton served.The problem is that Holland could not sub for Hampton because Hampton had subbed for Menger. Only Menger could sub for Hampton.
However, I too wondered about Hampton's position in the rotation at the time when Holland subbed for Hord and Jenna served. Jenna seemed to move from the back left to the back right (basically in Hord's spot) while Holland took over at the left front! All of which returned things to the rotation that started the set. Like you, I was curious about how that worked. I found a power point presentation about libero rules ( here) that, among much more, covers exactly the Holland for Hord situation and it shows specifically the substitution that occurred and results in the libero serving as the sub takes over at left front. Thanks for the reply. I'll check out that reference as I'm still about 25% confused. Gracias!! |
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Post by nyline on Oct 24, 2021 9:36:15 GMT -5
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Post by traveler on Oct 24, 2021 10:51:28 GMT -5
Salima was very high on Jenna during her coverage the last two nights. Observing how much she has improved...and I thought she was great to start with!
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Post by jojonito on Oct 24, 2021 22:26:12 GMT -5
Salima was very high on Jenna during her coverage the last two nights. Observing how much she has improved...and I thought she was great to start with! One area that she's improved, at least to me, is her recognition of tips/shots. Not infrequently I see her moving before a tip is actually hit. So she has been able to reach tips that before she might have missed. |
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