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Post by idseer2 on Nov 2, 2015 12:27:07 GMT -5
wondering if there are any past or present (unlikely i'd guess) team members contributing to this board? i mean ... why wouldn't they be at least reading this forum?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 16:11:27 GMT -5
You'd think current team players wouldn't be reading media reports, but rather focusing only on what their coaches are telling them, so as not to get confused with other people's critique/analysis of team play or players. Outsiders cannot see what the coaches do. Also, I think former PSU players are all involved in their professional and national teams. This forum IMHO is more for fans to stay connected during the days of the week when there are no PSU VB matches.  |
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Post by nyline on Nov 2, 2015 16:29:02 GMT -5
You'd think current team players wouldn't be reading media reports, but rather focusing only on what their coaches are telling them, so as not to get confused with other people's critique/analysis of team play or players. Outsiders cannot see what the coaches do. Also, I think former PSU players are all involved in their professional and national teams. This forum IMHO is more for fans to stay connected during the days of the week when there are no PSU VB matches. There may be some former players who look at the site, but I don't know of any that post. I think 8M is correct. |
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Post by idseer2 on Nov 2, 2015 17:10:28 GMT -5
You'd think current team players wouldn't be reading media reports, but rather focusing only on what their coaches are telling them, so as not to get confused with other people's critique/analysis of team play or players. Outsiders cannot see what the coaches do. Also, I think former PSU players are all involved in their professional and national teams. This forum IMHO is more for fans to stay connected during the days of the week when there are no PSU VB matches. i understand it's a fan's site. but it's also the ONLY psu fan's site as far as i know. but you could be right about the current roster. they may in fact be forbidden to browse this site but i'd find it hard to believe former players wouldn't be very interested in a site like this. them being involved with their careers doesn't seem that much different than us being involved in ours, does it? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 17:18:04 GMT -5
You'd think current team players wouldn't be reading media reports, but rather focusing only on what their coaches are telling them, so as not to get confused with other people's critique/analysis of team play or players. Outsiders cannot see what the coaches do. Also, I think former PSU players are all involved in their professional and national teams. This forum IMHO is more for fans to stay connected during the days of the week when there are no PSU VB matches. i understand it's a fan's site. but it's also the ONLY psu fan's site as far as i know. but you could be right about the current roster. they may in fact be forbidden to browse this site but i'd find it hard to believe former players wouldn't be very interested in a site like this. them being involved with their careers doesn't seem that much different than us being involved in ours, does it? True, you and Nyline may be correct about former players browsing this forum. Of course, now I'll be more self-conscious about what I post; hoping not to embarrass myself.  |
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Post by traveler on Nov 2, 2015 17:49:38 GMT -5
I can only imagine that if any of the formers gave it a look they'd probably be somewhere between ROFL and rolling their eyes at some of our pronouncements. Like 8M says, this is our outlet in between games. I am sure that the very close bond the formers, coaches, and current players have make this site unnecessary for them.
I have heard in other sports that players are discouraged from using social media period because of how it can mess with your mind -- either puffing you up or causing doubt. If i were a coach i would not recommend that any of the players or parents read this or participate because we do occasionally rant about this or that. Meanwhile, i suspect the coaches see this site as one more effective tool to fuel the fabulous fan base and build our VB IQ along the way.
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Post by nyline on Nov 2, 2015 22:23:14 GMT -5
I can only imagine that if any of the formers gave it a look they'd probably be somewhere between ROFL and rolling their eyes at some of our pronouncements. Wait, are you saying our insight and commentary isn't all that profound? Catching breath. Regaining composure. Gathering self. . . . . OK. What's your point? ☺ |
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Post by jojonito on Nov 3, 2015 0:54:31 GMT -5
I can only imagine that if any of the formers gave it a look they'd probably be somewhere between ROFL and rolling their eyes at some of our pronouncements. Wait, are you saying our insight and commentary isn't all that profound? Catching breath. Regaining composure. Gathering self. . . . . OK. What's your point? ☺ Nyline, I so enjoy your sense of humor! I also really appreciate all of the work that you, (and your slacker staff), put in on the Dignittany site. As a Penn State fan, it's one of the first places I go to to see what's gong on. |
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Post by nyline on Nov 3, 2015 2:01:48 GMT -5
Thanks. Glad you enjoy the site. I really think the contributions of folks on this forum make it infinitely better. I don't know how former players would view this -- certainly it would give them at least the occasional laugh (from how far off the mark we are). I just hope that all of us try to keep in mind the phrase of Coach Rose, and that we act like fans who "know how to be fans."
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Post by traveler on Nov 3, 2015 8:36:27 GMT -5
I can only imagine that if any of the formers gave it a look they'd probably be somewhere between ROFL and rolling their eyes at some of our pronouncements. Wait, are you saying our insight and commentary isn't all that profound? Catching breath. Regaining composure. Gathering self. . . . . OK. What's your point? ☺ HAHA. well said. i should have noted i had our (including MY) spirited back and forth from the forum in mind when i put fingers to keyboard and foot in mouth. without dispute the HOME portion of the site is an absolute trove, compendium, encyclopedia, of Nittany volleyball. it is factual, sourced (even if you have to resort to secrecy for some) and professorial even. i doubt i could live without it. please don't ever make us test that. |
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Post by idseer2 on Nov 3, 2015 10:23:32 GMT -5
I can only imagine that if any of the formers gave it a look they'd probably be somewhere between ROFL and rolling their eyes at some of our pronouncements. Wait, are you saying our insight and commentary isn't all that profound? Catching breath. Regaining composure. Gathering self. . . . . OK. What's your point? ☺ you know ... i know your tongue was in your cheek nyline, but in fact i think the views expressed by most here are quite informed and i believe former players might in fact learn things here they didn't necessarily know. in my experience, a player may know how to play and to do the things they are told to do, but that does not make them geniuses when it comes to strategy, personnel use etc. i'm a baseball fan mostly and i find that quite often former players (even great ones. check out ted williams' managing history for example) have no clue how to manage. likewise i would guess that most v-ball players simply know how to play their positions and nothing else. obviously many do, those who go on to coach for example. i would bet that former players (especially psu ones) would love this site. i know i've learned a lot here. i hardly knew anything about the game until i found this site. i just liked the team here (and btw, i'm a died in the wool notre dame fan who happens to live in the state college area) and fortunately came across the site. sure there are posters here who maybe don't have much of a clue ... like me for instance, but i think there are many more who really know what they're talking about and i think players would appreciate that instead of ROFLing and rolling their eyes. |
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Post by nyline on Nov 3, 2015 10:36:55 GMT -5
Wait, are you saying our insight and commentary isn't all that profound? Catching breath. Regaining composure. Gathering self. . . . . OK. What's your point? ☺ you know ... i know your tongue was in your cheek nyline, but in fact i think the views expressed by most here are quite informed and i believe former players might in fact learn things here they didn't necessarily know. in my experience, a player may know how to play and to do the things they are told to do, but that does not make them geniuses when it comes to strategy, personnel use etc. i'm a baseball fan mostly and i find that quite often former players (even great ones. check out ted williams' managing history for example) have no clue how to manage. likewise i would guess that most v-ball players simply know how to play their positions and nothing else. obviously many do, those who go on to coach for example. i would bet that former players (especially psu ones) would love this site. i know i've learned a lot here. i hardly knew anything about the game until i found this site. i just liked the team here (and btw, i'm a died in the wool notre dame fan who happens to live in the state college area) and fortunately came across the site. sure there are posters here who maybe don't have much of a clue ... like me for instance, but i think there are many more who really know what they're talking about and i think players would appreciate that instead of ROFLing and rolling their eyes. I agree there are many very knowledgeable fans on this site. In all honesty, I'm not in the upper tier on that score. Plus, many posters here make points that hadn't occurred to me. So I enjoy and appreciate posters and posts. I think where we probably swerve off the road is when we speculate about who should be playing, and where. We don't see them in practices (or at least I don't) and generally don't have the experience or skill set to evaluate talent. Again, at least I don't. |
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Post by scooter721 on Nov 4, 2015 12:56:44 GMT -5
you know ... i know your tongue was in your cheek nyline, but in fact i think the views expressed by most here are quite informed and i believe former players might in fact learn things here they didn't necessarily know. in my experience, a player may know how to play and to do the things they are told to do, but that does not make them geniuses when it comes to strategy, personnel use etc. i'm a baseball fan mostly and i find that quite often former players (even great ones. check out ted williams' managing history for example) have no clue how to manage. likewise i would guess that most v-ball players simply know how to play their positions and nothing else. obviously many do, those who go on to coach for example. i would bet that former players (especially psu ones) would love this site. i know i've learned a lot here. i hardly knew anything about the game until i found this site. i just liked the team here (and btw, i'm a died in the wool notre dame fan who happens to live in the state college area) and fortunately came across the site. sure there are posters here who maybe don't have much of a clue ... like me for instance, but i think there are many more who really know what they're talking about and i think players would appreciate that instead of ROFLing and rolling their eyes. I agree there are many very knowledgeable fans on this site. In all honesty, I'm not in the upper tier on that score. Plus, many posters here make points that hadn't occurred to me. So I enjoy and appreciate posters and posts. I think where we probably swerve off the road is when we speculate about who should be playing, and where. We don't see them in practices (or at least I don't) and generally don't have the experience or skill set to evaluate talent. Again, at least I don't. It's always great to get all perspectives. Many who have played and/or coached certainly can add to our knowledge, growth and enjoyment of PSU volleyball...and volleyball in general. Keeping it all about the joy that volleyball brings us, as well as challenging some of the strategies and performances is healthy. Love the site. Enjoy reading what, sometimes I feel I am the only one thinking, comes from someone else! Keep on postin'!! |
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