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Post by nyline on Oct 15, 2022 21:51:07 GMT -5
I don't think Penn State quits, but there are times they seem to play so carelessly and casually. It's weird. Yeah, "casual" is exactly how I would describe some awful unforced errors...happens way too much, especially when we're out of system and just need to get the ball over (I use that exact word when I yell at home by myself watching) You clearly are a person of uncommon discernment. |
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Post by pennstate1973 on Oct 15, 2022 22:01:59 GMT -5
How did this team beat Stanford and Oregon? In conference play it turns out Oregon is not all that good. And while Stanford is winning right now IMO they aren't all that good either. Next week Stanford will get destroyed by USC. |
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Post by ethankasales on Oct 15, 2022 22:04:40 GMT -5
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Post by pennstate1973 on Oct 15, 2022 22:06:49 GMT -5
The announcer has been complaining about PSU tips being throws. I gotta agree with him, but that is what's being allowed now. Go go figure. And nowadays setters are allowed to slam dunk the ball. I don't like it. |
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Post by seeyajohn on Oct 15, 2022 22:13:53 GMT -5
Going back to the third challenge, whose responsibility is it to keep track of challenges?
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Post by nyline on Oct 15, 2022 22:19:05 GMT -5
Going back to the third challenge, whose responsibility is it to keep track of challenges? I don't know, but when 20 people are telling the Up-ref and the guy looking at the challenge that Iowa doesn't have one, one or the other of them, or both, should have listened and checked. I've never seen such a bozo move in D1 WVB, ever. |
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Post by traveler on Oct 15, 2022 22:27:11 GMT -5
Could Katie challenge that? Lol.
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Post by traveler on Oct 15, 2022 22:30:42 GMT -5
Not sure I've seen PSU ever hit so many attacks into the net. Seems like such a high school miss. So, gotta ask (not necessarily rhetorically), is it bad sets?
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Post by ethankasales on Oct 15, 2022 22:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by ethankasales on Oct 15, 2022 22:35:42 GMT -5
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Post by nyline on Oct 15, 2022 22:39:35 GMT -5
Not sure I've seen PSU ever hit so many attacks into the net. Seems like such a high school miss. So, gotta ask (not necessarily rhetorically), is it bad sets? Or bad passes. To my unskilled eyes, that seems to be more the problem -- and not just this match. |
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Post by jojonito on Oct 16, 2022 0:04:51 GMT -5
When a team expects to win, these things sometimes happen. The team plays without a sense of urgency, without being careful. And sloppy errors occur. And when that attitude occurs, it can be devilishly difficult to snap out of it. Generally a team can't just say, let's play good. Doesn't happen. And PSU isn't, at this point in time, a team that can win regularly win without bringing their best game. In this years pre-season, yes. In the B1G, not a chance.
P.S. And like you said nyline, the passing has been a problem. I thought it was getting better a few weeks back. At this point in time, it's getting worse. Which is why KSC was going with 2 receivers at one pt. That's what led to the disastrous 3rd set Fri nite. SO MANY overpasses that were easy kills for NEB.
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Post by EnglishPennStateFan on Oct 16, 2022 2:48:04 GMT -5
I thought our women played well for those two sets with the exception of serving, receiving, passing, setting, hitting, digging, and communication. This was one of the worst-played matches by Penn State I've ever seen. Wow nyline, considering how constructive your comments normally are, that's blunt in the extreme. I couldn't watch it in England as it wasn't on Volleyball World TV's schedule. Was it really that bad?? |
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Post by EnglishPennStateFan on Oct 16, 2022 3:20:51 GMT -5
When a team expects to win, these things sometimes happen. The team plays without a sense of urgency, without being careful. And sloppy errors occur. And when that attitude occurs, it can be devilishly difficult to snap out of it. Generally a team can't just say, let's play good. Doesn't happen. And PSU isn't, at this point in time, a team that can win regularly win without bringing their best game. In this years pre-season, yes. In the B1G, not a chance. P.S. And like you said nyline, the passing has been a problem. I thought it was getting better a few weeks back. At this point in time, it's getting worse. Which is why KSC was going with 2 receivers at one pt. That's what led to the disastrous 3rd set Fri nite. SO MANY overpasses that were easy kills for NEB. You are spot on here jojonito - I think it's the same in many sports. In English football (soccer), when a team near the top of the league goes to a team near the bottom, and fails to bring their 'A' game, they often get their backsides kicked, although just as often (as with PSU last night) they manage to scrap their way to a down-to-the-wire win. There's so much psychology and mental preparation in sporting performance and it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking 'we got this' before a ball's even been hit. In my pre match post, I said we'd be great and win 3-0, so I was just as guilty as the players! Maryland next, so that's a perfect opportunity to get the preparation and attitude 100% right. (VTV is streaming that one, yay!) |
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Post by nyline on Oct 16, 2022 6:14:52 GMT -5
This was one of the worst-played matches by Penn State I've ever seen. Wow nyline, considering how constructive your comments normally are, that's blunt in the extreme. I couldn't watch it in England as it wasn't on Volleyball World TV's schedule. Was it really that bad?? I should have prefaced my comment by acknowledging that the team didn't quit. To their credit, this team never quits, even in thàt blowout 3rd set to Nebraska. If they hadn't fought back from being down 8 to 10 in the 5th set, and hung tough in a tough situation, they clearly would have lost. But they did hang tough, and despite it all, they won. Major kudos to them for doing that. I also should have given credit to Iowa -- they played tough, and they didn't quit either. Still, I can't remember that amount of sloppy, seemingly "casual" play by Penn State in more than a few of the many matches I've watched over the past 20+ years. Not unprecedented (actually, I can remember one versus Iowa at Rec Hall (I think it was this 2009 match, when Iowa won the third set 26-24 to break Penn State's streak of winning 141 consecutive regular season sets: gopsusports.com/news/2009/10/2/No_1_Penn_State_Defeats_Iowa_in_Big_Ten_Home_Opener.aspx ) when Russ Rose said to them during a time-out something like it was up to them to start playing) but pretty rare. Thus my comment. Others might disagree. And for the record, I don't lay this on the coaching staff. They can only do so much to prepare a team. And I don't think it's that the players don't care. I'm sure the players care alot. I think this was mostly on the players not focusing in the moment. Maybe they were still feeling the after effects of the loss to Nebraska. I don't know the reason. At the end of the day, I suppose the only thing that really matters is they pulled it out. So maybe it's a "Nevermind." |
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