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Post by pinkpanther on Nov 4, 2022 9:06:18 GMT -5
Just curious if there will be a separate thread created as we approach NCAAs about selection? Is anyone worried, like I am, about how small the margin for error is to make the tournament?
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Post by nyline on Nov 4, 2022 10:02:46 GMT -5
Just curious if there will be a separate thread created as we approach NCAAs about selection? Is anyone worried, like I am, about how small the margin for error is to make the tournament? I'll create a Tournament Thread. And yes, there's not a lot of margin for error. I'm optimistic. |
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Post by dc155 on Nov 4, 2022 10:08:45 GMT -5
Just curious if there will be a separate thread created as we approach NCAAs about selection? Is anyone worried, like I am, about how small the margin for error is to make the tournament? With how good our RPI currently is... pending no absolute disaster to end the season, I think we're looking good to make the tournament. Now, if we can win some of the upcoming ranked match ups, maybe we could possibly host the first round? Or maybe not. ;P |
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Post by pinkpanther on Nov 4, 2022 11:34:51 GMT -5
Just curious if there will be a separate thread created as we approach NCAAs about selection? Is anyone worried, like I am, about how small the margin for error is to make the tournament? With how good our RPI currently is... pending no absolute disaster to end the season, I think we're looking good to make the tournament. Now, if we can win some of the upcoming ranked match ups, maybe we could possibly host the first round? Or maybe not. ;P I'm embarrassed that I don't know the answer to this question, but is it a requirement that a team be .500 or above in conference to make the tournament, or is it just a rule of thumb? Because I see that our RPI will likely be good enough, but I think you can look at the remaining games optimistically and think a possible outcome is 11-9 in the B1G, but pessimistically, we might end up with a good record and a good RPI, but a 9-11 record in the B1G. I think the OSU match showed that there is no team remaining on the schedule that they can't beat, but there have also been matches where when things don't bounce PSU's way, and they lose to a team with a lower RPI / ranking. Northwestern beat Minnesota and Purdue, which shows they are beatable by teams with a lower ranking, but those two teams always seem to bring their A game against PSU. If PSU isn't on their A game against NW, that's probably the remaining game on the schedule that is scaring me more than anything. Sorry if I'm being too much of a bummer this season, but just trying to be honest about what I've been worried about for a few weeks. |
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Post by nyline on Nov 4, 2022 13:28:37 GMT -5
With how good our RPI currently is... pending no absolute disaster to end the season, I think we're looking good to make the tournament. Now, if we can win some of the upcoming ranked match ups, maybe we could possibly host the first round? Or maybe not. ;P I'm embarrassed that I don't know the answer to this question, but is it a requirement that a team be .500 or above in conference to make the tournament, or is it just a rule of thumb? Because I see that our RPI will likely be good enough, but I think you can look at the remaining games optimistically and think a possible outcome is 11-9 in the B1G, but pessimistically, we might end up with a good record and a good RPI, but a 9-11 record in the B1G. I think the OSU match showed that there is no team remaining on the schedule that they can't beat, but there have also been matches where when things don't bounce PSU's way, and they lose to a team with a lower RPI / ranking. Northwestern beat Minnesota and Purdue, which shows they are beatable by teams with a lower ranking, but those two teams always seem to bring their A game against PSU. If PSU isn't on their A game against NW, that's probably the remaining game on the schedule that is scaring me more than anything. Sorry if I'm being too much of a bummer this season, but just trying to be honest about what I've been worried about for a few weeks. I have no idea -- I would think there must be an exception for automatic qualifiers (if, for example, the winner of a conference tournament that gives an automatic bid had a losing record) because if there isn't, then the conference tournament is a bit of a sham. But I really don't know. |
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Post by pennstate1973 on Nov 4, 2022 14:37:50 GMT -5
You have to have an overall record of .500 or better to make the tournament. Conference record doesn't matter. Penn State has a 100% chance of making the tournament. Automatic qualifiers from winning their conference can have a losing record I believe. I don't think they go down the list of the conference tournament finishers to find a team with a .500 or better overall record.
I like the link dc155 put in the Polls and Ratings thread for the unofficial RPI. It gets updated constantly and as far as I can tell it is in sync with the official NCAA RPI. I check it a couple times every day that matches are played to see the changes in the RPI percentage.
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Post by dc155 on Nov 4, 2022 15:23:40 GMT -5
You have to have an overall record of .500 or better to make the tournament. Conference record doesn't matter. Penn State has a 100% chance of making the tournament. Automatic qualifiers from winning their conference can have a losing record I believe. I don't think they go down the list of the conference tournament finishers to find a team with a .500 or better overall record.
I like the link dc155 put in the Polls and Ratings thread for the unofficial RPI. It gets updated constantly and as far as I can tell it is in sync with the official NCAA RPI. I check it a couple times every day that matches are played to see the changes in the RPI percentage.
For those who haven't seen the RPI rankings site, here is the link: ncaastats.figstats.net/volleyball-rpi.cgi?fbclid=IwAR3G4hygHmwOJkBW4TsLeMtKjW0KY1gTpuvuufaBUGXPlQdhKvXiP8Rhf04 |
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Post by pinkpanther on Nov 4, 2022 15:59:29 GMT -5
You have to have an overall record of .500 or better to make the tournament. Conference record doesn't matter. Penn State has a 100% chance of making the tournament. Automatic qualifiers from winning their conference can have a losing record I believe. I don't think they go down the list of the conference tournament finishers to find a team with a .500 or better overall record.
I like the link dc155 put in the Polls and Ratings thread for the unofficial RPI. It gets updated constantly and as far as I can tell it is in sync with the official NCAA RPI. I check it a couple times every day that matches are played to see the changes in the RPI percentage.
It's been a long time since I've posted anything on that other volleyball forum, but I used to participate there pretty regularly. My recollection was that in the NCAA threads over the years, when people speculated about how many teams from the B1G would make it, one criteria they often talked about was having a B1G record of .500 or above. So in years where folks thought we might get 8 teams in, the argument was always if the 8th team finished below .500 in the conference, they were unlikely to make it, and so the conference would only get 7. I seem to remember that coming in to play one year when Maryland was considered a bubble team. I know we had a great non-conference run with some good wins, but I've been letting memories of those old NCAA threads make me wonder if a 20-11 PSU team with a 9-11 B1G record would be left out, while a 21-10 or 22-9 would have made it. I'm glad to be convinced otherwise! |
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 8, 2022 0:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Nov 13, 2022 0:11:51 GMT -5
You have to have an overall record of .500 or better to make the tournament. Conference record doesn't matter. Penn State has a 100% chance of making the tournament. Automatic qualifiers from winning their conference can have a losing record I believe. I don't think they go down the list of the conference tournament finishers to find a team with a .500 or better overall record.
I like the link dc155 put in the Polls and Ratings thread for the unofficial RPI. It gets updated constantly and as far as I can tell it is in sync with the official NCAA RPI. I check it a couple times every day that matches are played to see the changes in the RPI percentage.
It's been a long time since I've posted anything on that other volleyball forum, but I used to participate there pretty regularly. My recollection was that in the NCAA threads over the years, when people speculated about how many teams from the B1G would make it, one criteria they often talked about was having a B1G record of .500 or above. So in years where folks thought we might get 8 teams in, the argument was always if the 8th team finished below .500 in the conference, they were unlikely to make it, and so the conference would only get 7. I seem to remember that coming in to play one year when Maryland was considered a bubble team. I know we had a great non-conference run with some good wins, but I've been letting memories of those old NCAA threads make me wonder if a 20-11 PSU team with a 9-11 B1G record would be left out, while a 21-10 or 22-9 would have made it. I'm glad to be convinced otherwise! In the chance that the Committee decides that a B1G record of .500 or above is needed - With this weekend's wins over Indiana and Purdue, we're now 10-6 with 4 conference matches left. We should be good!  And the general talk from commentators isn't whether Penn State makes the tournament, but whether Penn State will get a seed. |
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 17, 2022 18:11:01 GMT -5
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Post by nyline on Nov 21, 2022 8:59:45 GMT -5
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 21, 2022 11:17:16 GMT -5
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 23, 2022 15:46:05 GMT -5
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Post by EnglishPennStateFan on Nov 23, 2022 16:38:33 GMT -5
Just watched #2 San Diego securing a 3-1 win in the BYU cauldron. They looked very impressive, especially with Blossom orchestrating the offence. I'd forgotten just how good she is. Much as I want PSU to go as far as they can in the tournament, a Texas v San Diego championship match would be huge.
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