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Post by ethankasales on Nov 12, 2023 11:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 12, 2023 11:29:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 14:51:22 GMT -5
Both video links I posted are the full match replay (different versions, though).
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Post by jojonito on Nov 12, 2023 16:02:55 GMT -5
Zoe was blocked 5 times by WI (out of 11 total). To be fair, Zoe was going up against WI's best blocker, Carter Booth who averages 1.5 blocks a set.
BUT, the interesting thing is that Zoe was instrumental in PSU winning the 4th set. She had 5, count them, 5, kills in the 4th set (and was blocked once). Pretty impressive to have the mental toughness and ability to get the kills when needed.
Was re-watching part of the 4th set. The score was 4-3 PSU with WI serving. WI had 3 soft blocks in a row against PSU with PSU covering each of them. PSU then had a soft block of their own with the point ending with a cross court Hannah kill. Amazing pt.
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Post by traveler on Nov 12, 2023 16:22:16 GMT -5
It’s not unlike the harping from the booth about Jess. Yes. We are aware she starts slow. Yes. We trust her to take out the garbage. Yes, her numbers. But. …
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Post by jojonito on Nov 12, 2023 16:23:08 GMT -5
This comment goes under the "Things I Wish Noob Announcers Would Get Right" category. One thing that noob announcers seem to always get wrong is service errors. They seem to think that a team wants zero service errors. Whereas a team doesn't want service errors, yet, if a team has no service errors, it probably means that that team is serving too soft, especially between two high quality teams. If a high quality team gets a lolly pop serve, that generally means a 3 pass receive with the opposing setter having 3-4 setting options. And that, more often than not, means a point for the opposing team. So a coach would rather have tough serves with occasional misses than easier serves that are always in. OTOH, RR wanted both hard serves and aways in Another error noobs announcers make is attributing service errors to nerves. Sometimes, I'm sure, that is true, especially in really important points; set pts, match points. BUT more often than not, the errors are because the server is trying to serve to a particular part of the court or to a particular receiver. And the nerves come in, not because they're trying to simply get the ball in, but because the server is trying to get a TOUGH serve in cuz the server knows that if an easy serve is in, it will come back REALLY hard. (This post really doesn't go with this thread, but wasn't sure where else to put it).
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Post by jojonito on Nov 12, 2023 16:39:16 GMT -5
It’s not unlike the harping from the booth about Jess. Yes. We are aware she starts slow. Yes. We trust her to take out the garbage. Yes, her numbers. But. … Yeah, the announcers frequently don't put a hitters numbers in perspective. Jess doesn't usually hit a high percentage because of her being the goto hitter on oos balls. Also, in some matches, she's the only hitter that has a chance of putting the ball down so she gets a lot more sets than she should, (in a balanced team attack). And that was what was so great about last nights match; Camryn hit .395, BUT, Mac was able to set Zoe and Jess in the 4th set, and not just Camryn, so that WI couldn't commit block on Camryn all the time. With PSU only being able to depend on 1 hitter late in a match is what has lost a lot of sets/matches for PSU this year.
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 12, 2023 16:45:56 GMT -5
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Post by jojonito on Nov 12, 2023 17:18:18 GMT -5
I was surprise when looking at Franklin's numbers. She hit .203 (19-7-59). I though she had hit better than that. She was set twice as much as any other WI hitter. WI seems to have the same problems that PSU has had; they needed another hitter to step up last night and didn't get it.
So why did WI move Orzol to OH instead of going with a 5-1 attack? WI was protecting the substitute libero on serve receive. So was the 7+ kill of Orzol worth it (.280 11-4-25)? I would think that having Orzol as libero would have been better and running a 5-1.
When I see a 6-2 offence, it reminds me of a Terry Pettit's (former NEB coach) comment about it. He said, "A setter in a 6-2 offence has the same leadership capability as a pusher in a 2 man bobsled." Such a classic line. He obviously wasn't a big fan of the 6-2.
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Post by jojonito on Nov 12, 2023 17:25:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the presser comments after the match. Always interesting.
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 12, 2023 19:16:20 GMT -5
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Post by traveler on Nov 12, 2023 21:50:06 GMT -5
Trying to remember how many times I saw RR jump in the air to celebrate a point. Lol
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Post by dc155 on Nov 13, 2023 0:02:33 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Grimes ending the match was the perfect finish? What immense growth she's had this season!
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Post by nyline on Nov 13, 2023 1:40:59 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Grimes ending the match was the perfect finish? What immense growth she's had this season! Yes, particularly because Sarah Franklin was the Wisconsin player who Grimes aced.
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Post by EnglishPennStateFan on Nov 13, 2023 6:34:04 GMT -5
This comment goes under the "Things I Wish Noob Announcers Would Get Right" category. One thing that noob announcers seem to always get wrong is service errors. They seem to think that a team wants zero service errors. Whereas a team doesn't want service errors, yet, if a team has no service errors, it probably means that that team is serving too soft, especially between two high quality teams. If a high quality team gets a lolly pop serve, that generally means a 3 pass receive with the opposing setter having 3-4 setting options. And that, more often than not, means a point for the opposing team. So a coach would rather have tough serves with occasional misses than easier serves that are always in. OTOH, RR wanted both hard serves and aways in Another error noobs announcers make is attributing service errors to nerves. Sometimes, I'm sure, that is true, especially in really important points; set pts, match points. BUT more often than not, the errors are because the server is trying to serve to a particular part of the court or to a particular receiver. And the nerves come in, not because they're trying to simply get the ball in, but because the server is trying to get a TOUGH serve in cuz the server knows that if an easy serve is in, it will come back REALLY hard. (This post really doesn't go with this thread, but wasn't sure where else to put it). Most of PSU's service errors were marginally too long. I found with my English Schools title winning squad (before they won their first title) that they could hit the back line consistently in training but then would go long in important matches. I figured it was down to adrenalin so in practice I always spent time getting them to hit targets 3 feet inside the back line and in matches aim for that same spot. It worked; the number of just-long serves dropped and our tough deep serving helped us win several national championships, albeit back in the mid 80's when the overall standard and depth of good teams wasn't as high as now.
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