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Post by jojonito on Nov 27, 2024 20:34:22 GMT -5
Stats after 3rd set
_________PSU __RUT Hitting____.252__.133 Blocks_____7___6 Serve errs__6___7 Aces______7___1 Kills______47___29 Hit Errs____18___14 Digs______59___37
RUT with 5 blocks in the 3rd set.
PSU almost averaged 20 digs per set. That's a lot.
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Post by jojonito on Nov 27, 2024 20:48:23 GMT -5
Hitting Stats
Jess hitting .292 (13-5-28) Cam hitting .285 (10-3-24) Caroline hitting .056 (5-4-18) Taylor hitting .250 (5-2-12) Maggie hitting .389 (8-1-18) Izzy hitting .333 (5-2-9)
Blocks Maggie with 5, Jess, CJ and Izzy with 2, Taylor with 1
Aces Quinn, Cam and Gill with 2, Jess with 1.
Digs Gill with 13; Ava, Izzy and Jess with 10, Jocelyn with 6, Cj and Anjelina with 3, Quinn with 2, Cam and Taylor with 1.
Assists Izzy with 36, Jess with 5, Gill with 2, Ava and Taylor with 1.
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Post by 96psu on Nov 27, 2024 20:54:09 GMT -5
Friday is going to be brutal
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Post by 96psu on Nov 27, 2024 20:55:42 GMT -5
Markley needs to come in for CJ, CJ's having an off game. I don’t get what this coaching staff sees during the game that they can’t tell changes need to be made.
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Post by ethankasales on Nov 27, 2024 21:29:12 GMT -5
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Post by nyline on Nov 27, 2024 21:45:05 GMT -5
Markley needs to come in for CJ, CJ's having an off game. I don’t get what this coaching staff sees during the game that they can’t tell changes need to be made. Two possibilities: 1) the coaching staff is blind/stubborn/incompetent and fails to see/refuses to acknowledge during the matches that changes need to be made (presumably with respect to CJ, based on your previous posts); or 2) the staff sees all the players in every practice, and has seen alternatives to CJ (mostly Markley) in several match situations, and has concluded that the alternatives are worse. There may be other alternatives I am missing -- happy to hear what they are -- but these (with perhaps less fraught language) are the main ones, IMHO. I pick alternative #2. You appear to pick something along the lines of alternative #1. There is no way for anyone to prove what is the correct explanation. Love, peace and volleyball.
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Post by nittanye on Nov 27, 2024 23:16:20 GMT -5
To help understand the rotation, I will say I think it would be great if there were press conferences with the staff or press pressure on the staff to provide some rationale for decisions. As a fan, a little more explaining would be great.
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Post by dc155 on Nov 28, 2024 0:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Nov 28, 2024 0:00:31 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Nov 28, 2024 0:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Nov 28, 2024 0:42:08 GMT -5
Markley needs to come in for CJ, CJ's having an off game. I don’t get what this coaching staff sees during the game that they can’t tell changes need to be made. Like you, I'm a fan of Alexa, and would also like to see her come in when Carol isn't doing well. I too wonder what the coaches see in Carol's play (when she's not doing well) that we don't. On the other hand, since I don't know what goes on in practices, perhaps it's that the coaches don't see in Alexa's play what we hope/think we'll see. I don't know. I have no idea. My best guess though, is that the coaches have decided that Carol will give the team the best chance to beat Nebraska on Friday - though realistically, I don't know if they will... so in a match like tonight's, when there's no chance Penn State will lose, they're leaving her in to figure things out, hoping that she'll be a better version on Friday. Again, I don't know, but that's my guess. I think as fans we always want to see the best, or quickly see some type of change. I think as coaches they're willing to let the team struggle through growing pains - "trust the process". Admittedly, sometimes a process can be flawed or wrong. Will their process prove to be correct? I don't know, perhaps we'll find out? Perhaps we will never know. To add - The coaches did recently replace a team captain (in the starting lineup) with an underclassman. Clearly they can, and are willing, to make changes when/if they think the change will help. On that note - Kudos to Joce! She has been playing really well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2024 1:23:52 GMT -5
I don’t get what this coaching staff sees during the game that they can’t tell changes need to be made. Two possibilities: 1) the coaching staff is blind/stubborn/incompetent and fails to see/refuses to acknowledge during the matches that changes need to be made (presumably with respect to CJ, based on your previous posts); or 2) the staff sees all the players in every practice, and has seen alternatives to CJ (mostly Markley) in several match situations, and has concluded that the alternatives are worse. There may be other alternatives I am missing -- happy to hear what they are -- but these (with perhaps less fraught language) are the main ones, IMHO. I pick alternative #2. You appear to pick something along the lines of alternative #1. There is no way for anyone to prove what is the correct explanation. Love, peace and volleyball. While Markley has not taken advantage of her opportunities offensively, this season, it still helps when you pull a starter for a few points to help them settle and recalibrate. In my opinion, this is important, as PSU does not have a deep roster. This is not a new concept either, we see this in pro league matches all the time.
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Post by nyline on Nov 28, 2024 6:05:53 GMT -5
Two possibilities: 1) the coaching staff is blind/stubborn/incompetent and fails to see/refuses to acknowledge during the matches that changes need to be made (presumably with respect to CJ, based on your previous posts); or 2) the staff sees all the players in every practice, and has seen alternatives to CJ (mostly Markley) in several match situations, and has concluded that the alternatives are worse. There may be other alternatives I am missing -- happy to hear what they are -- but these (with perhaps less fraught language) are the main ones, IMHO. I pick alternative #2. You appear to pick something along the lines of alternative #1. There is no way for anyone to prove what is the correct explanation. Love, peace and volleyball. While Markley has not taken advantage of her opportunities offensively, this season, it still helps when you pull a starter for a few points to help them settle and recalibrate. In my opinion, this is important, as PSU does not have a deep roster. This is not a new concept either, we see this in pro league matches all the time. Or, the staff considered that option, and concluded it would make things worse, both in terms of the performance of the player being swapped in, and having a negative impact on the "connectivity" with the other players (certain combinations of players do "mesh" better than other combinations.). It's also not a given, 100% certainty that a player will benefit from being swapped out for a few points. Their confidence might be such that when they return, they play worse. That can happen even in professional sports (see, e.g. QB Carson Wentz of the Philadelphia Eagles, who went from near MVP season in the 2017 season, to totally melting down in the 2020 season because, as many/most beat writers agree, his fragile ego shattered after the Eagles drafted QB Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round of the 2020 NFL draft. Not even swapped out, just the prospect of being swapped out.) Again, you may be right, but if you and I can see an option, so can the coaches. I don't think they are ignoring the option, I just think they've concluded it's better to leave CJ in, for whatever reasons they may have. I think the bottom line is this is an excellent team that has one too few currently excellent players. The player they think gives them the best chance this season for performing as that final excellent player seems to be CJ. And leaving her in (usually, not always) as they do, even when she's playing poorly, seems to be the option they think gives them the best chance of coaching her up to become that final currently excellent player by the end of the season and through tournament time.
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Post by nyline on Nov 28, 2024 6:30:57 GMT -5
To help understand the rotation, I will say I think it would be great if there were press conferences with the staff or press pressure on the staff to provide some rationale for decisions. As a fan, a little more explaining would be great. Coaches -- pretty much all coaches, not just our coaches -- are loathe to reveal the logic behind those kinds of decisions, other than to say "we thought it was best for the team" or something like that. There may be all kinds of reasons they sit a player or don't sit a player (and I'm not privy to any of the reasons in this situation). If there were an injury to a player that wouldn't stop the player from competing, but would hamper their play, for example, then for competitive advantage, the coaches may not want that injury publicized. If a player had a disciplinary issue of some kind, the coaches wouldn't want that publicized. I believe there are all kinds of personnel decisions that coaches won't discuss publicly, no matter what level of pressure the press tries to apply.
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Post by 96psu on Nov 28, 2024 8:33:54 GMT -5
Two possibilities: 1) the coaching staff is blind/stubborn/incompetent and fails to see/refuses to acknowledge during the matches that changes need to be made (presumably with respect to CJ, based on your previous posts); or 2) the staff sees all the players in every practice, and has seen alternatives to CJ (mostly Markley) in several match situations, and has concluded that the alternatives are worse. There may be other alternatives I am missing -- happy to hear what they are -- but these (with perhaps less fraught language) are the main ones, IMHO. I pick alternative #2. You appear to pick something along the lines of alternative #1. There is no way for anyone to prove what is the correct explanation. Love, peace and volleyball. While Markley has not taken advantage of her opportunities offensively, this season, it still helps when you pull a starter for a few points to help them settle and recalibrate. In my opinion, this is important, as PSU does not have a deep roster. This is not a new concept either, we see this in pro league matches all the time. I’ll disagree that she has not taken advantage of her offensive opportunities. Looking at her stats and having watched every PSU match this year, you can see in the 20 sets she has played over ten matches, many times she was inserted late in the game without the time to make an impact (Pitt) or inserted mid match but not set much (JMU, Yale) or after we had already abandoned trying to set the right side due to lack of success (UK, MSU). One match she was removed in the second set after only six swings (UCLA). In the 4 matches she was set more than 6 times (Temple, Princeton, OSU, Minn) she had 17 kills, only 4 errors, and hit .351, and in the two complete matches she played this season (OSU and Minn), she hit .250 and recorded 5 blocks. It’s not easy to come into matches late in the game, get in a rhythm with the setter, and put up big offensive numbers over the same number of swings that a featured hitter gets in one rotation across the net. A better comparison is how she performed when she gets to build trust and rhythm with Izzy, and those numbers are way better than what we are seeing from CJ at the moment, who plays with the benefit of being able to play through several slow starts and stay in the match long enough to occasionally redeem herself.
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