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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 13:50:23 GMT -5
In the past Nyline and his staff have provided stats to help us understand where PSU is and has been statistically so that we might evaluate where the team is headed. As a type of mea culpa for that hash of blocking stats that I tried to produce last night, I thought I'd throw together a quick look at statistics over the last 10 years. I included what I thought was most important: PSU and Opponent attack percentages, blocks per set, aces per set, and digs per set. I also included cumulative and B1G-only stats; there are some interesting surprises there.
Year PSU ATK % OPP ATK % BLK/SET ACES/SET DIGS/SET
Cum B1G Cum B1G Cum B1G Cum B1G Cum B1G
2016 .291 .290 .171 .214 2.62 2.39 1.21 1.34 13.21 13.04
2015 .295 .272 .162 .184 3.06 3.01 1.12 1.01 13.82 14.00
2014 .342 .325 .146 .131 2.68 3.01 1.91 1.85 12.80 12.75
2013 .305 .301 .138 .149 3.05 3.27 1.31 1.11 14.24 13.79
2012 .302 .300 .129 .138 3.01 3.04 1.57 1.35 14.30 14.30
2011 .267 .254 .170 .181 2.68 2.73 1.78 1.64 14.17 14.97
2010 .314 .305 .133 .168 3.01 2.69 1.30 1.04 14.72 15.03
2009 .381 .365 .116 .135 3.23 3.43 1.42 1.18 13.11 12.92
2008 .390 .407 .089 .087 3.22 3.40 1.34 1.13 12.00 11.52
2007 .350 .334 .136 .129 3.82 4.05 1.59 1.38 13.65 13.86
So, assuming this all hangs together, have some fun with the stats.
I tried to be accurate, but I haven't triple checked. So if there are errors, let me know and I'll make corrections.
The numbers from 2007 through 2009 really stand out. No question, the personnel on those teams were second to none. But what of their opponents? Is there more parity recently?
Discuss.
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Post by nitneliun on Sept 12, 2017 15:46:58 GMT -5
I'm certain there is more parity now, at least within the B1G. From 2007-09, I don't think any B1G team had a player that could start for PSU. Now, there are many.
I can't help but notice the Aces/Set stats for 2011 - 2014, particularly 2014, which eclipsed even the dynasty teams of 07-10. Micha's serve was a difference-maker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 16:26:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 16:27:00 GMT -5
A very slow learner. Apologies. I hope none of you get carpal tunnel difficulties from scrolling. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 16:27:23 GMT -5
I'm certain there is more parity now, at least within the B1G. From 2007-09, I don't think any B1G team had a player that could start for PSU. Now, there are many. I can't help but notice the Aces/Set stats for 2011 - 2014, particularly 2014, which eclipsed even the dynasty teams of 07-10. Micha's serve was a difference-maker. Micha's serve is the primary reason I included Aces/Set as one of the statistical categories. I'm not sure how much of a factor it was in the pre- and post-Micha eras. I was taken by the low number of digs in 2008. Then I looked at the Opponent Hitting Percentage. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 16:33:10 GMT -5
I've got to learn patience when I click on "create post." |
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Post by nyline on Sept 12, 2017 19:06:08 GMT -5
Thanks, gnu2vball. This is a really good snapshot of successs and talent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 19:08:00 GMT -5
Thanks, gnu2vball. This is a really good snapshot of successs and talent. Yeah, and then there's the statistics.... Da da dum. |
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Post by scooter721 on Sept 13, 2017 7:54:57 GMT -5
Thank you gnu2vball. Appreciate the stats and the effort.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 17:48:03 GMT -5
For me, one of the fun things about statistics are the surprises. I'm most familiar with the team from 2010 forward--that's when I started watching. For most seasons, PSU had better results cumulatively than it did against the B1G. I sorta expected that--figuring the B1G is more competitive. BUT, the non-B1G statistics also include results from the NCAA tournament which, "cupcakes" aside, generally includes the toughest competition. In this regard, 2008 stands out. Think about it, the team hit (only) .390 cumulatively, but .407 against the (weaker?) B1G.
What do you find intriguing?
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Post by toomuchvb on Sept 13, 2017 22:37:28 GMT -5
Intriguing how the 2011 PSU attack took a dip compared to previous and following seasons. Can't remember what was unusual about that season. Had the same core group.
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Post by psumaui on Sept 14, 2017 0:54:22 GMT -5
Intriguing how the 2011 PSU attack took a dip compared to previous and following seasons. Can't remember what was unusual about that season. Had the same core group. From what I remember there were a lot of individuals playing that year instead of a team. IMHO that is why they lost in regional semi's. |
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Post by nyline on Sept 14, 2017 3:57:07 GMT -5
Intriguing how the 2011 PSU attack took a dip compared to previous and following seasons. Can't remember what was unusual about that season. Had the same core group. Actually, there were huge losses from 2010 to 2011. Look at the 2010 stats listed on DigNittanyVolleyball and you see that Blair Brown (the Honda award winner for volleyball for 2010) was gone. Arielle Wilson, a fantastic AA middle, was gone. Fatima Balza, an underrated middle, was gone. Alyssa D'Errico, the libero and best server with 49 aces, was gone. Cathy Quilico (the "widget") was gone as the second ds. Look at the 2011 stats on DigNittanyVolleyball.com and yes, you see six returning key players -- McClendon, Slay, Scott, Martin, Longo and Carpenter -- but five are sophomores, and the lone junior -- Carpenter -- had switched from setter to ds, to make room for one of the five freshmen on that team, Micha Hancock. The other four freshmen who played key roles in 2011 were Grant, Whitney, Gonzalez and Fuller. All very good players, but they were freshmen. It was a very, very, very young team. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 5:37:38 GMT -5
Another factor about 2011 is the setter switch. I have no idea what went on in 2011 before the season started, but I have to assume that Carpenter was likely the number 1 setter in the spring and likely during the run-up to the season-opener with Oregon, when she was the setter. The next day, against USC, Micha Hancock started at setter. Micah did a great job, I think PSUMAUI still has the game loaded for those who'd like to watch, but how many reps had she had with the first team prior to her start?
I believe that lack of reps might have contributed to the lower hitting percentages during the season--there simply not being any way to make up for what hadn't happened. The next season, hitting percentages returned to the "accustomed" .300 level.
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Post by nyline on Sept 14, 2017 6:33:23 GMT -5
Another factor about 2011 is the setter switch. I have no idea what went on in 2011 before the season started, but I have to assume that Carpenter was likely the number 1 setter in the spring and likely during the run-up to the season-opener with Oregon, when she was the setter. The next day, against USC, Micha Hancock started at setter. Micah did a great job, I think PSUMAUI still has the game loaded for those who'd like to watch, but how many reps had she had with the first team prior to her start? I believe that lack of reps might have contributed to the lower hitting percentages during the season--there simply not being any way to make up for what hadn't happened. The next season, hitting percentages returned to the "accustomed" .300 level. I have no idea what went on either, but I imagine the staff was looking to Hancock as the starter for 2011, but wanted to ease her in, and certainly weren't going to hand her the job. While she wasn't a top-20 PrepVolleyball recruit (my recollection is she was mid-40s, which speaks to the point that John Tawa makes repeatedly -- the lists aren't perfect) she was obviously very, very good and her serve was deadly. I think the staff probably viewed Carpenter as a serviceable setter who did fine with a loaded team in 2010, but that Hancock had alot more upside. If it was close, the choice may have been as much about 2012, 2013, and 2014 as it was about 2011. Lack of reps may have had an impact early on, but after three weeks or so, my guess would be that was not a factor. But like John Snow, the truth is, I know nothing (except that I am definitely not a Targaryen.) |
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