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Post by bob2061 on Oct 12, 2017 19:21:18 GMT -5
define walk-on. E.g., i think Halterman may in fact be a walk-on, which i always understood was someone not recruited who showed up at start of practice schedule. She's the only one i know of who was not recruited (if I my hunch is correct). All others were recruited and committed to PSU (t/fs excluded), usually years in advance. Or do you mean non-scholarship player? Someone like Erica Denney who walked on in 2010 when we were out of scholarships. Unfortunately she was injured most of her years on the team. i think Michaela Putnicki is currently a non-scholarship player. Lacey Fuller was one also I believe. Basically, when I say non-scholarship player I mean someone who isn't getting a full ride.
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Post by traveler on Oct 12, 2017 19:38:33 GMT -5
Got your meaning. Don't know what to think about Putnicki. I believe she was a highly-ranked player in Co (maybe Gatorade POY) and Dennis recruited her to UVA, likely w/a scholarship. When he left, he got her to commit to PSU. No idea what happens then, what promises are made...
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 12, 2017 23:08:52 GMT -5
So this thread seems to be the place to ask a question. I understand why our version of the 6-2 limits other substitution options. So coach has to hold off on DS/serving subs to the back end of each set. What I am not understanding is why Lainey Pierce comes in to serve for Washington, then Washington comes right back in after the opponent sides out. Pierce does not serve as well as Washington, and I would hope that Pierce is a better defender than Washington. I do see why Frantti or Lee come back in right away for their subs, but Washington does not hit out of the back row. I'm sure there must be a reason but I am missing it.
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Post by traveler on Oct 13, 2017 0:44:03 GMT -5
Noticed. Seems different in different games. Washington's D and serving have both improved a lot this year IMO, and when Washington is hot, they seem to be leaving her in to serve more. When Pierce is just in to serve, I'm not sure if it's to give a quick break; whether practice during the week helps determine; or whether it's a numbers game....or whether they're trying to keep the opposition off with a serve they haven't seen yet. I don't think we're winning many of those points against the BIG teams. Worked better earlier in season.
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Post by seeyajohn on Oct 13, 2017 8:34:56 GMT -5
So this thread seems to be the place to ask a question. I understand why our version of the 6-2 limits other substitution options. So coach has to hold off on DS/serving subs to the back end of each set. What I am not understanding is why Lainey Pierce comes in to serve for Washington, then Washington comes right back in after the opponent sides out. Pierce does not serve as well as Washington, and I would hope that Pierce is a better defender than Washington. I do see why Frantti or Lee come back in right away for their subs, but Washington does not hit out of the back row. I'm sure there must be a reason but I am missing it. Haleigh's serve happens as soon as she rotates to the back row. When the opponent sides out, she is immediately replaced by Kendall White. So, when Lainey subs in for Haleigh, she leaves in favor of Kendall not Haleigh. One of the two middles needs to serve because Kendall can only serve once in the six rotations. Kendall serves when Tori rotates to the back row. Incidentally, it is often the case when a d/s subs for Simone or Ali, the d/s remains on the floor for all three rotations where Simone or Ali is in the back row. Other times coach wants the back row attack available and will put the hitter back in the game.
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Post by cross5 on Oct 13, 2017 8:58:45 GMT -5
So this thread seems to be the place to ask a question. I understand why our version of the 6-2 limits other substitution options. So coach has to hold off on DS/serving subs to the back end of each set. What I am not understanding is why Lainey Pierce comes in to serve for Washington, then Washington comes right back in after the opponent sides out. Pierce does not serve as well as Washington, and I would hope that Pierce is a better defender than Washington. I do see why Frantti or Lee come back in right away for their subs, but Washington does not hit out of the back row. I'm sure there must be a reason but I am missing it. Haleigh's serve happens as soon as she rotates to the back row. When the opponent sides out, she is immediately replaced by Kendall White. So, when Lainey subs in for Haleigh, she leaves in favor of Kendall not Haleigh. One of the two middles needs to serve because Kendall can only serve once in the six rotations. Kendall serves when Tori rotates to the back row. Incidentally, it is often the case when a d/s subs for Simone or Ali, the d/s remains on the floor for all three rotations where Simone or Ali is in the back row. Other times coach wants the back row attack available and will put the hitter back in the game. Washington has 11 aces/12 errors and 36 digs in 56 games. Pierce has 2 aces/0 errors and 15 digs in 32 games. Considering Pierce plays/serves 1/3 - (1 opportunity) of the time in many of those 32 games her stats bear out to be an equally effective server and better defender. Remember Washington is serving 2 to 3 times per game. Now however, some of the year especially the first 2 weeks Pierce was playing regularly for Lee or Frantti for 3 rotations as server,passer and defender until Keeton became eligible. The "one and done" sub has always been a tough one to master throughout PSU's history. Hopefully she settles in here to get a few more disruptions but to answer your question she is a better defender and moves better than Washington and that is why they make that move. In addition I'll add that scouting has become so precise by some programs that they know the tendencies of the server before they hit it and discuss where the server likes to go and the style of the serve. For example, Simone Abbott's (Northwestern) serve was effective the 1st or 2nd time in the match.....after we had the right rotation matchup and our servers knew the serve had a slight left to right rotation to the 1 spot we had the right person there with the right angle of reception. Like in baseball, getting a 2nd and 3rd look at a pitcher is a nice + for the batter. They see the delivery, angle, tendancies and timing. So offering a different server (look) by surprise can be just those 2 points in a game that turn a match on its proverbial head.
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 13, 2017 11:13:05 GMT -5
Thanks friends. All excellent points and understandable explanations. One of the many reasons I like this site.
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 21, 2017 11:54:57 GMT -5
Last night Tortorello asked Frantti about the 6/2 and how it felt playing with two setters. Ali's replies reminded me of our preseason discussion on this site about the plusses and minuses of a 6/2 including the challenges it might pose for the hitters. Ali acknowledged that the sets were different with Abby's being flatter and "B's" tending to be higher. Ali indicated that she is used to the differences because they practice 3 hours a day. She also played with Bryanna all the way back to club volleyball.
This enjoyably technical post match conversation got me thinking about which setter might provide the better hitting percentage for each hitter, who was more often paired with whom, and of course my mild embarrassment at not noticing the difference in setting styles. What is unquestionable, and as pointed out by Tortorello during the match, is how helpful it is to have a second true setter on the floor during scramble rallys rather than have to hit a Libero bump set.
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