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Post by nyline on Aug 31, 2015 15:58:33 GMT -5
We've posted an article by Talking Head on DigNittany. Here's the link. And here's an excerpt:
1. Whole Lot of Swingin’ Goin’ On
In its first three matches (all sweeps) — vs. Buffalo (76 attacks), vs. Stony Brook (83 attacks) , and vs. Villanova (121 attacks) — the 2015 PSU squad took a total of 280 swings –44 more swings than the 236 swings the 2014 squad took in their first three matches (all sweeps) — vs. TCU (91 attacks), vs. Iona (79 attacks), and vs. William & Mary (66 attacks). One could, of course, say this is because we don’t have Micha Hancock this year serving 10 aces in a row. But that would be incorrect. This year’s squad actually has more aces (12, compared to 10 for the 2014 squad) and fewer serving errors (19, compared to 27 for the 2014 squad) — in each case, through 3 matches and 9 sets. Observation: we are not terminating nearly as quickly , nor efficiently, which means we are going to see longer rallies and longer matches and a PSU team that is going to have to learn to win through grit.
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Post by psumaui on Aug 31, 2015 19:13:49 GMT -5
I like less serving errors which I also noted during this weekend. One thing I saw was all three opposing teams where hitting the floor more than I'd like with the ball. Hope with more experience this changes soon. Also, I see our new setter getting more and more in tune with our hitters and will make a deadly combination. I also hope that our new MB (Tori Gorrell) is ready to play soon.
I think with experience comes quicker terminating since I have noticed that setting at times seems to be too far back for our hitters. I think in time the sets will get more in tune with what our hitters want and we will start to terminate quicker. One thing that I saw and liked was Bryanna was able to hold MB's in middle like Micha did due to her ability at dumping balls across net.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:36:36 GMT -5
I worry that they're not ready for better teams. While Stanford is weak in the middle, Bugg should be able to exploit the defensive weaknesses PSU exhibited. I'm kinda left hoping the Coach Rose has chosen to conceal some of his weapons so as to surprise the PAC-12 teams. I know it's unrealistic to expect the team to perform at the level they attained over the preceding three seasons.
To build on what PSUMAUI said about Weiskircher, a skill I noticed is that she was able to go over in two on a couple of the overpasses. Micha excelled at that and it was reassuring to see that Weiskircher has the same skill. I think the team's setting is doing better than back row defense. I'm sure it will come along by the time the B1G season starts.
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Post by cross5 on Sept 1, 2015 6:48:03 GMT -5
I worry that they're not ready for better teams. While Stanford is weak in the middle, Bugg should be able to exploit the defensive weaknesses PSU exhibited. I'm kinda left hoping the Coach Rose has chosen to conceal some of his weapons so as to surprise the PAC-12 teams. I know it's unrealistic to expect the team to perform at the level they attained over the preceding three seasons. To build on what PSUMAUI said about Weiskircher, a skill I noticed is that she was able to go over in two on a couple of the overpasses. Micha excelled at that and it was reassuring to see that Weiskircher has the same skill. I think the team's setting is doing better than back row defense. I'm sure it will come along by the time the B1G season starts. As of last week they are not ready imo for Stanford nor Colorado for that matter. However, we do KNOW that many of these players have a very high ceiling and can and have gone there. I would expect a very tough week of practice and that has often led to incredible results. Many of the weapons and roles are not clearly defined in the girls minds yet, and I would guess not in the coaches either. That uncertainty leads to 2nd guessing and less efficiency. That is NOT necessarily a bad thing though, especially at this stage of the season. Defined roles too early can lead to the spare parts not working and corrosion with such a comparatively new team. Weiskircher is clearly getting more comfortable and I'm sure the language and demeanor from the coaches toward her has changed too this week as she has clearly emerged as THE setter for now. But with that comes a different level of expectations and pressures from the coaches and team.......one that I think Bryanna is excited to accept. The back row defense and passing is for sure our biggest work in progress. That machine is not oiled in the least bit and grinding gears compared to what we have been used to, but again for those 2 years we kind of knew what to expect from each player, there positioning and roles. If we as fans knew it, the girls most certainly did too. I would guess by the middle of B1G season we should have settled things down back there.
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Post by phillytom on Sept 1, 2015 8:18:21 GMT -5
I don't know if this is correct but it sounds like Courtney and Frantti did not have a great weekend passing. It's not unreasonable that they would struggle a bit as they're adjusting to new libero so there is natural uncertainty about who is getting what.
That will improve over time and given the skills and work ethic of the players, it should improve a lot. Getting good passing from the libero is the start.
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Post by cross5 on Sept 1, 2015 8:37:48 GMT -5
I don't know if this is correct but it sounds like Courtney and Frantti did not have a great weekend passing. It's not unreasonable that they would struggle a bit as they're adjusting to new libero so there is natural uncertainty about who is getting what. That will improve over time and given the skills and work ethic of the players, it should improve a lot. Getting good passing from the libero is the start. absolutely right on ! Hopefully the girls just play and don't think too much Match 1 was generally awful. We settled down in game 2 of but dropped off in game 3 = expected rollercoaster Match 2 started out great Match 3 was a little hairy and Villanova got confidence quickly Buffalo TEAM ATTACK BY SET Set K E TA Pct Sideout Pct 1 10 4 24 .250 11-19 57% 2 12 2 25 .400 10-12 83% 3 11 4 27 .259 10-17 58% 31-48 64% StonyBrook TEAM ATTACK BY SET Set K E TA Pct Sideout Pct 1 17 2 28 .536 10-13 76% 2 10 1 26 .346 11-14 78% 3 12 3 29 .310 14-20 69% 35-47 74% Villanova TEAM ATTACK BY SET Set K E TA Pct Sideout Pct 1 14 3 39 .282 13-20 64% 2 18 5 45 .289 18-24 75% 3 15 4 37 .297 14-21 66% 280TA 45-65 69%
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 11:57:06 GMT -5
What I learned is- digging and passing is going to take some time, period. Which means, we can't be in extended rallies with talented teams- there won't be as many chances for us to end points. Obviously this effects the setter...we will not be in a position to win, if the only real option is setting the ball to the outside.
Heidi isn't a real hitting option (I unfortunately don't see that improving soon enough), which will free up opposing blocks to cheat out to our pin hitters.
I'm going to bring it back up....Aiyanna has to go back to the middle.
There was a point in set 2 of the Villanova match when we were up 19-16 and Simone subbed in for Thelen- She played OPP, Ali was outside, Bryanna was back to serve, with Megan and Keeton.
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Post by cross5 on Sept 1, 2015 12:13:33 GMT -5
I'm going to bring it back up....Aiyanna has to go back to the middle. There was a point in set 2 of the Villanova match when we were up 19-16 and Simone subbed in for Thelen- She played OPP, Ali was outside, Bryanna was back to serve, with Megan and Keeton. And that didn't look nor go so well if I remember correctly. Thelen does not have to be an offensive threat to score points. She moves and reads well and set her blocks up in a solid fashion. that alone is enough to help the defense and channel a hitter. I think we cannot forget what a weapon Aiyana is and can be for us this year. Not sure that there is anyone who CAN do what she is capable of on the Right Side. I hear you, but I think we should hold on that move for a bit. However......in the line of Stanford......IF....IF our passing does really solidify running Whitney out of the middle along with Washington could be devastating if Lutz is not back. Other wise I would run a faster reverse flow set , and have our pin hitters hammer crosscourt all day as the Stanford middles will never close in time. www.stanforddaily.com/2015/08/30/what-we-learned-from-stanford-womens-volleyball-in-week-one/Week One: Veterans will be veterans As expected, a disproportionate number of Cardinal attacks came from their outside hitters: 53 percent of their attacks came from the outside, compared to just 46 percent last season. That worked in Stanford’s favor, as seniors Jordan Burgess and Brittany Howard impressed in both matches this weekend. Burgess hit .385 in the Cardinal’s first two matches, with 24 kills and four errors over 52 attacks combined, while Howard hit .340 (22-6-47) over the two matches. Hayley Hodson is for real The nation’s top recruit, opposite hitter Haley Hodson, looked like a veteran on the court this weekend for the Cardinal. (It’s no surprise considering the experience she has had with the U.S. Senior National Team and as a captain of a gold-medal-winning Junior National Team.) Hodson had 19 kills on 52 attacks combined over the two matches, and her numbers only figure to improve over the course of the season as she and Bugg get more comfortable together on the court. By the way, she also picked up five blocks against Minnesota on Sunday afternoon. Hodson’s classmate, middle blocker Tami Alade — another of the six total freshmen on the team — filled in for junior Merete Lutz, who was out with a finger injury. While Alade had limited attacking opportunities, she showed her potential on defense, finishing with a match-high six blocks against Minnesota. Lutz needed back at middle blocker for upcoming matches It was odd seeing so few attacks coming from Stanford’s middles, as that has become their brand in recent seasons. Going into the Big Ten/Pac-12 Challenge in State College, Pennsylvania next weekend, the Cardinal will certainly need Lutz back at middle blocker to reclaim some of the balance that has led to so much success in the past. Lutz is back at practice and hopes to be ready in time for the matches against current No. 8 Illinois and a Final Four rematch against No. 1 Penn State.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 12:33:21 GMT -5
I have concern for Colorado- watching their match against FSU they didn't play like a team in their first week of play.
As of right now, we don't have the offense to be successful- 4 hitters (that aren't terminal at this point) aren't going to get it done. Statistics can prove this.
Having more options might free Bryanna up to not just always set outside...and as of now, she could be connecting better with Aiyanna on the right side.
This is a different team and what someone did in previous years doesn't accurately represent what will be done in the present.
We'll definitely have a real idea of what needs to be done by Sunday.
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Post by phillytom on Sept 1, 2015 12:44:55 GMT -5
What I learned is- digging and passing is going to take some time, period. Which means, we can't be in extended rallies with talented teams- there won't be as many chances for us to end points. Obviously this effects the setter...we will not be in a position to win, if the only real option is setting the ball to the outside. It's true but you can view the cause and effect the other way as well. Part of the reason they're in extended rallies in the first place is suboptimal passing leading to suboptimal setting -- so even in system they're not terminating very well. Offense begins with passing and setting, and that part is almost all new hands touching the ball this year. In fact they will probably have to play scrappy -- win those extended rallies, keep rallies alive until the other team errors, and win more points in transition because their sideout is poor (by PSU standards). That's where blocking becomes really important. Clearly one of the reason Thelen had a lot of blocks was rallies that never would have happened in the first place because a normal PSU offense would have put the points away sooner. And I hasten to add -- WILL put points away sooner as the offensive system starts to get its groove. I think the big picture is -- considering you're starting a true freshman libero who first set foot on campus a few weeks ago, and a setter who is getting her first real taste of college volleyball, none of this is unexpected. They might have a pretty ugly match against Stanford, but that, too, would not necessarily be a reason to worry.
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Post by nyline on Sept 1, 2015 12:48:16 GMT -5
I have concern for Colorado- watching their match against FSU they didn't play like a team in their first week of play.
As of right now, we don't have the offense to be successful- 4 hitters (that aren't terminal at this point) aren't going to get it done. Statistics can prove this.
Having more options might free Bryanna up to not just always set outside...and as of now, she could be connecting better with Aiyanna on the right side.
This is a different team and what someone did in previous years doesn't accurately represent what will be done in the present.
We'll definitely have a real idea of what needs to be done by Sunday. For example, Ali Frantti hit .479 and averaged 3.94 kills/set through Penn State's first five matches (17 sets) last season. She's hitting .262 after three matches this season, with 2.44 kills/set. That's not meant as a criticism of Ali Frantti -- she's a great player, and she'll get her kills. But, as you said, the fact that a player put up given statistics one season doesn't mean that, under different team dynamics, she'll do the same (or better) the following season.
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Post by cross5 on Sept 1, 2015 12:57:52 GMT -5
We averaged 40 hitting attempts in a 3 game sweep of Villanova siding out at 69%
Last year against Wisconsin in that brutal 4 game regional match we average 38 hitting attempts siding out at 69%
The machine is NOT running cleanly but I really think we have the players to get to that position we all want to be in come December and most importantly we have the mechanic in Coach Rose who ain't afraid to get his hands dirty to get us up and running.
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Post by nyline on Sept 1, 2015 13:05:24 GMT -5
What I learned is- digging and passing is going to take some time, period. Which means, we can't be in extended rallies with talented teams- there won't be as many chances for us to end points. Obviously this effects the setter...we will not be in a position to win, if the only real option is setting the ball to the outside. It's true but you can view the cause and effect the other way as well. Part of the reason they're in extended rallies in the first place is suboptimal passing leading to suboptimal setting -- so even in system they're not terminating very well. Offense begins with passing and setting, and that part is almost all new hands touching the ball this year. In fact they will probably have to play scrappy -- win those extended rallies, keep rallies alive until the other team errors, and win more points in transition because their sideout is poor (by PSU standards). That's where blocking becomes really important. Clearly one of the reason Thelen had a lot of blocks was rallies that never would have happened in the first place because a normal PSU offense would have put the points away sooner. And I hasten to add -- WILL put points away sooner as the offensive system starts to get its groove. I think the big picture is -- considering you're starting a true freshman libero who first set foot on campus a few weeks ago, and a setter who is getting her first real taste of college volleyball, none of this is unexpected. They might have a pretty ugly match against Stanford, but that, too, would not necessarily be a reason to worry. Actually, there is a school of thought that says, lose to Stanford (or Texas) early in the season, you'll do better in the Tournament. E.g., Penn State lost to Stanford on 9-11-10 - won 2010 National Championship; won on 8-31-12 -- lost in Final Four; didn't play in 2013 (but lost to Texas on 9-7-13 - Won 2013 National Championship); lost on 9-5-14 - won 2014 National Championship. An outlier is 2011, when the Nittany Lions lost to Stanford on 9-9-11 - but lost in the Sweet 16.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 16:12:42 GMT -5
It's true but you can view the cause and effect the other way as well. Part of the reason they're in extended rallies in the first place is suboptimal passing leading to suboptimal setting -- so even in system they're not terminating very well. Offense begins with passing and setting, and that part is almost all new hands touching the ball this year. In fact they will probably have to play scrappy -- win those extended rallies, keep rallies alive until the other team errors, and win more points in transition because their sideout is poor (by PSU standards). That's where blocking becomes really important. Clearly one of the reason Thelen had a lot of blocks was rallies that never would have happened in the first place because a normal PSU offense would have put the points away sooner. And I hasten to add -- WILL put points away sooner as the offensive system starts to get its groove. I think the big picture is -- considering you're starting a true freshman libero who first set foot on campus a few weeks ago, and a setter who is getting her first real taste of college volleyball, none of this is unexpected. They might have a pretty ugly match against Stanford, but that, too, would not necessarily be a reason to worry. Actually, there is a school of thought that says, lose to Stanford (or Texas) early in the season, you'll do better in the Tournament. E.g., Penn State lost to Stanford on 9-11-10 - won 2010 National Championship; won on 8-31-12 -- lost in Final Four; didn't play in 2013 (but lost to Texas on 9-7-13 - Won 2013 National Championship); lost on 9-5-14 - won 2014 National Championship. An outlier is 2011, when the Nittany Lions lost to Stanford on 9-9-11 - but lost in the Sweet 16. It's an interesting school of thought Nyline, but it kinda comes down to superstition and I think you know that.
This is a fun thread, by the way.
More than anything, I want PSU to sweep the weekend. It's likely that Coach Rose will be able to make a lot of improvements before Friday. I'm not so upset that some player's hitting percentages were off. It's a new season with new setters. Back in 2010 Brown's and Wilson's hitting percentages dropped as they transitioned from Glass to Carpenter. I think the setting will work out pretty well. There are only two to chose from--although going with Courtney would be interesting. Unless Rose has settled with Holcombe, I don't know how he sorts it out amongst all the back row players. The Libero & DS permutations and combinations are nearly infinite.
The forum has become my first stop when I get home from work. Great place Nyline!
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Post by cross5 on Sept 1, 2015 17:18:56 GMT -5
This is a fun thread, by the way. The forum has become my first stop when I get home from work. Great place Nyline!
[/quote] It's because we have a lot of cool people on here. And we are blessed with NY as our "Connector" (Malcom Gladwell)
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