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Post by nyline on Dec 27, 2017 17:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by bob2061 on Dec 27, 2017 19:15:06 GMT -5
Steve is a player's coach and I have no doubt you will see Indiana improving very quickly. I know he loved Penn State but wanted to get head coach experience asap so he jumped at Maryland offer and now Indiana. Best of luck to him.
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Post by pete1919 on Dec 27, 2017 19:26:47 GMT -5
Wonder if some of the high end Maryland recruits will be Available to transfer Pritchard would fill a glaring need and is big time Again regarding the transfer rule would an Inter conference transfer sit for a year?
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Post by nyline on Dec 27, 2017 19:30:06 GMT -5
Wonder if some of the high end Maryland recruits will be Available to transfer Pritchard would fill a glaring need and is big time Again regarding the transfer rule would an Inter conference transfer sit for a year? I think so, barring some special circumstance -- and I don't think Aird leaving would constitute such a circumstance.
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Post by Millennium on Dec 27, 2017 20:21:28 GMT -5
Wonder if some of the high end Maryland recruits will be Available to transfer Pritchard would fill a glaring need and is big time Again regarding the transfer rule would an Inter conference transfer sit for a year? I think so, barring some special circumstance -- and I don't think Aird leaving would constitute such a circumstance. I wonder what special circumstance the libero for Wisconsin (transfer from Michigan) got so she didn't have to sit out a year?
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Post by nyline on Dec 27, 2017 20:34:02 GMT -5
I think so, barring some special circumstance -- and I don't think Aird leaving would constitute such a circumstance. I wonder what special circumstance the libero for Wisconsin (transfer from Michigan) got so she didn't have to sit out a year? It's an understandable question, but given that many of the possibilities may involve private matters, I think it's equally understandable that the Big Ten doesn't reveal them. To be clear, I have no idea what they were in the case of Tiffany Clark -- they may have been quite mundane, or not so mundane. And they may have been manufactured (though I doubt that). Similar questions could be asked about the transfer of 125 lb. wrestler Nick Suriano from Penn State to Rutgers, without having to sit out. I'm probably the wrong person to discuss this, because in general, I think student athletes should be able to transfer without penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 22:18:51 GMT -5
I guess Maryland didn't make a counter-offer to keep him? Could Indiana's offer have been significantly greater than Maryland's? And more to the point, for those players he recruits as Indiana's coach... Are they going to believe he'll be around for their four years?
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Post by Millennium on Dec 28, 2017 7:10:58 GMT -5
I wonder what special circumstance the libero for Wisconsin (transfer from Michigan) got so she didn't have to sit out a year? It's an understandable question, but given that many of the possibilities may involve private matters, I think it's equally understandable that the Big Ten doesn't reveal them. To be clear, I have no idea what they were in the case of Tiffany Clark -- they may have been quite mundane, or not so mundane. And they may have been manufactured (though I doubt that). Similar questions could be asked about the transfer of 125 lb. wrestler Nick Suriano from Penn State to Rutgers, without having to sit out. I'm probably the wrong person to discuss this, because in general, I think student athletes should be able to transfer without penalty. That's basically where I was going with this. That is, why should any athlete have to suffer a penalty for transferring intra-conference vs no penalty for inter-conference transfers? The NCAA should at the very least give their reasoning for allowing intra-conference transfers with no penalty, for the sake of transparency. It's not like the student-athletes are getting paid; they play for an education (in return).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 8:10:43 GMT -5
That's basically where I was going with this. That is, why should any athlete have to suffer a penalty for transferring intra-conference vs no penalty for inter-conference transfers? The NCAA should at the very least give their reasoning for allowing intra-conference transfers with no penalty, for the sake of transparency. It's not like the student-athletes are getting paid; they play for an education (in return). Unless personal reasons are a factor? Will the NCAA citing "reasons of a personal nature" be enough for some? Someone on Volleytalk made the point that coaches can move about within a conference with no penalty, why not players?
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Post by nyline on Dec 28, 2017 8:46:15 GMT -5
That's basically where I was going with this. That is, why should any athlete have to suffer a penalty for transferring intra-conference vs no penalty for inter-conference transfers? The NCAA should at the very least give their reasoning for allowing intra-conference transfers with no penalty, for the sake of transparency. It's not like the student-athletes are getting paid; they play for an education (in return). Unless personal reasons are a factor? Will the NCAA citing "reasons of a personal nature" be enough for some? Someone on Volleytalk made the point that coaches can move about within a conference with no penalty, why not players? Citing "personal reasons" would probably make things worse. The speculation would be rampant. To Millennium's point, the rationale for the difference between in-conference and out-of-conference transfer restrictions undoubtedly (to me) is rooted in concerns of intra-conference poaching, and the hard feelings that would engender. The best teams could poach the best players from the worst teams -- and would have a very good take on who they were and their strengths and weaknesses, having played them during the season (as well as probably scouted them in high school and Junior high). I think those are real concerns, but I'd still do away with the requirement to sit out a year. Steve Aird won't have to. The one exception I would make is in a Steve Aird-type situation -- prohibiting his players from following him to a new Big Ten school unless they sit out a year. No exceptions.
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