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Post by Millennium on Nov 27, 2018 17:03:18 GMT -5
Here's an example I found illustrating the libero substitution rule. It appears from this example that NO substitutions by the libero or middle blockers count toward the 15 substitution total. The URL is www.ncaa.com/news/volleyball-women/article/2018-08-29/college-volleyball-libero-explained"In Penn State’s opening match against Eastern Kentucky last Friday, middle blockers Serena Gray and Tori Gorrell were starters. Libero Kendall White, who is listed as a defensive specialist, went in for Gorrell before the first serve. When Gray served, Gorrell entered for White, since she is the only player that can replace the libero. Then White re-entered for Gray on the next rotation, which then made Gray the player who must replace White. When it was Gorrell’s turn to serve, Gray entered for Gorrell without a formal substitution and White went to the service line. That made Gorrell the next player that will replace White when it’s Gray’s turn to serve again. How can this happen? Well, what really happened was two libero substitutions in one action. Gray replaced White — since she was the only player that can replace the libero, per the rules outlined earlier — and White replaced Gorrell, which made Gorrell the only player to replace White." Seeyajohn, glad you brought this up as I hadn't really thought thru the libero substitutions and now i really (sorta really) understand it  .
So, if I'm understanding this article (even though it doesn't clearly state so) and the position correctly, the libero can only serve once per 6 rotations and must come out once per 6 rotations. Is that correct?
I've never played the game, just a fan.
Anyone can feel free to answer this.
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Post by jojonito on Nov 27, 2018 18:03:16 GMT -5
That's my understanding. Like you say, it doesn't really state that, but I would assume that if possible the libero would serve twice, especially as the libero is almost always the best defensive player on the floor.
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Post by elliotberton on Nov 27, 2018 18:08:31 GMT -5
To make matters more fun for the feeble minded like me, it seems like the International Rules for the Libero are different than the NCAA regulations.
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Post by seeyajohn on Nov 27, 2018 18:27:42 GMT -5
"So, if I'm understanding this article (even though it doesn't clearly state so) and the position correctly, the libero can only serve once per 6 rotations and must come out once per 6 rotations. Is that correct?"
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As I now understand the rule, that is correct as a practical matter.
In LaLa land, if a team had all six-rotation players and two setters plus a dynamite libero with a phishtrixy serve, they could keep the libero on the floor for all six rotations. As each player completed her turn serving she would be replaced by the libero who would first be replaced by the previous server. So the server is in position LB (left back) and libero would enter at the start of the set for the player in MB (middle back). When the opponents side out the original MB player would sub in for the libero who would immediately sub for the LB player. When the team rotated the libero would move to MB. Again when the opponents side out the original server (for whom the libero most recently subbed) would return to replace the libero who would immediately replace the second server. This could continue forever with each server stepping out after serving in favor of the libero and then returning after the next opponent side out in place of the libero. I think this would completely be within the rules for the libero and also be completely absurd!!
One aside as we beat this topic into the ground; In international volleyball the libero is not permitted to serve!
p.s. when I entered this post I had used a different, and, perhaps to some, less offensive word than "phishtrixy." The change is the work of administrative gremlins. The word I used begins with "cr" but I can't show you the whole word because it will autocorrect to "phishtrixy."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 18:55:56 GMT -5
p.s. when I entered this post I had used a different, and, perhaps to some, less offensive word than "phishtrixy." The change is the work of administrative gremlins. The word I used begins with "cr" but I can't show you the whole word because it will autocorrect to "phishtrixy." Seems like the word substitution application is on the "Lame-O" setting. |
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Post by nyline on Nov 27, 2018 22:39:02 GMT -5
p.s. when I entered this post I had used a different, and, perhaps to some, less offensive word than "phishtrixy." The change is the work of administrative gremlins. The word I used begins with "cr" but I can't show you the whole word because it will autocorrect to "phishtrixy." Seems like the word substitution application is on the "Lame-O" setting. My Slacker Staff shows remarkable enthusiasm when it comes to autocorrect. Impossible to keep up with their phistrixy antics. |
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Post by traveler on Nov 28, 2018 10:43:00 GMT -5
decorum potissimum aliud
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Post by pointps on Nov 28, 2018 11:16:37 GMT -5
I know our ladies have been playing volleyball since a very young age. But imagine being a first semester freshman, trying to acclimate to classes, being on your own for the first time, and traveling across the country, and having to understand the substitution patterns, the plays, movement, the competition, the pressure, etc. Our 8 freshman must be very smart and confident, in addition to being very, very good.
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Post by traveler on Nov 28, 2018 11:23:03 GMT -5
In other words: Living the dream.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 11:46:59 GMT -5
In other words: Living the dream. I thought it was possum decorating tips. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 11:49:46 GMT -5
I know our ladies have been playing volleyball since a very young age. But imagine being a first semester freshman, trying to acclimate to classes, being on your own for the first time, and traveling across the country, and having to understand the substitution patterns, the plays, movement, the competition, the pressure, etc. Our 8 freshman must be very smart and confident, in addition to being very, very good. I think the "smart and confident" shows when they're interviewed. I never cease to be impressed. And I think Coach Rose sees those qualities as being as important as on court skills. |
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