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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 16:01:58 GMT -5
I just don’t understand what they are doing. They are absolutely killing recruiting and possible transfers waiting so long. It is my understanding that Katie is still working on recruiting, etc., as interim head coach. |
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Post by traveler on Jan 7, 2022 16:14:27 GMT -5
Would certainly hope so. Entire remaining staff should be doing so, don't expect them to be sitting on their hands.
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Post by ethankasales on Jan 7, 2022 16:25:12 GMT -5
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Post by seeyajohn on Jan 7, 2022 16:39:25 GMT -5
Well, at least the Penn State opening has created great opportunities at competing schools for the alleged candidates. Louisville, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Pitt - YUK! Wake me when this nightmare is over!
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Post by traveler on Jan 7, 2022 16:39:25 GMT -5
Wiping egg from our collective faces...
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Post by gowardpa on Jan 7, 2022 16:43:48 GMT -5
This should mean they've made a decision now...announce already!!
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Post by yogi on Jan 7, 2022 16:55:59 GMT -5
So if he was our plan A, then I sure hope we had a plan B as a contingency. Otherwise, I feel sorry for the players on the team to have to deal with such uncertainty. Maybe Russ comes back for a final curtain call and the new administration can do this right. As an outsider looking in, the optics are not very good.
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Post by nymeria24 on Jan 7, 2022 17:26:33 GMT -5
He just completely played the psu administration to get pay raise at pitt. They need smarter people working in that administration.
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Post by nyline on Jan 7, 2022 17:27:08 GMT -5
So if he was our plan A, then I sure hope we had a plan B as a contingency. Otherwise, I feel sorry for the players on the team to have to deal with such uncertainty. Maybe Russ comes back for a final curtain call and the new administration can do this right. As an outsider looking in, the optics are not very good. There is always a backup plan. I don't know who that is, except it absolutely, positively won't be Russ coming back for a curtain call. If they want to hire someone right now, by the end of this weekend, I assume that person would be Katie -- simply because the vetting is already done. If they want another outside candidate, it will delay things into next week, at the earliest. That wouldn't be ideal, but I think PSU got blindsided by Fisher. It happens. Let's try to avoid overreacting. Penn State will hire a good coach who we now know will not have the last name Fisher. I'm still looking forward to the next chapter of Penn State Women's Volleyball. I'm a fan. |
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Post by elliotberton on Jan 7, 2022 17:37:15 GMT -5
First of all, "Buckeye for life" ? LOL Second, happy for Nic! She is a great coach and maybe one day she'll be on the PSU bench in one way or another... good to see the pipeline of coaches get stronger. From what I could see, it appears that she is very much appreciated by the players and staff. Always excited to see players I rooted for doing well in their careers. |
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Post by evanceg on Jan 7, 2022 18:52:58 GMT -5
Losing your top candidate at the 11th hour is not unusual in the real world of hiring, be it business, academe or sports.
I know the transfer portal is percolating and the returning players are anxious to know who they'll be playing for, but this is not a "next season" decision, it's a next five to 10 seasons decision and it shouldn't be accelerated by panic. If it takes another 7-14 days to hire the next best available candidate, then, so be it. Make the best choice, not the quickest choice. I doubt Sandy and Lauren are without a clue about whom to talk with next.
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Post by nyline on Jan 7, 2022 19:24:17 GMT -5
Losing your top candidate at the 11th hour is not unusual in the real world of hiring, be it business, academe or sports. I know the transfer portal is percolating and the returning players are anxious to know who they'll be playing for, but this is not a "next season" decision, it's a next five to 10 seasons decision and it shouldn't be accelerated by panic. If it takes another 7-14 days to hire the next best available candidate, then, so be it. Make the best choice, not the quickest choice. I doubt Sandy and Lauren are without a clue about whom to talk with next. Shame on you, bringing common sense, calm, and real-world experience into the conversation. But, I agree with you totally. |
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Post by psufan24 on Jan 7, 2022 23:40:33 GMT -5
Losing your top candidate at the 11th hour is not unusual in the real world of hiring, be it business, academe or sports. I know the transfer portal is percolating and the returning players are anxious to know who they'll be playing for, but this is not a "next season" decision, it's a next five to 10 seasons decision and it shouldn't be accelerated by panic. If it takes another 7-14 days to hire the next best available candidate, then, so be it. Make the best choice, not the quickest choice. I doubt Sandy and Lauren are without a clue about whom to talk with next. Yea, true but I think this program is one where they shouldn’t be losing their top candidate. That’s what really makes all of this so disappointing, with the wave of transfers and now moving from a plan A to possible plan C or D because that’s who’s available isn’t solid footing for the program and shows how far it has fallen. Could be wrong and I hope I am and they get a ‘home run hire” but it’s not looking great… |
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Post by nittanye on Jan 8, 2022 8:41:15 GMT -5
Lotsa drama yesterday for fans. The drama really only made it into the fan sphere because information was leaked by someone and social media now allows a leak to spread so rapidly. We, as fans, really don’t know how often this sort of thing happens because it depends on the existence of a leak. A lot of the narrative on VT is speculation.
As far as folks saying it’s either terrible that Penn St lost their #1 candidate or saying this is evidence of AD dysfunction, I’d respectfully suggest otherwise. They went after THE top possible candidate and juuust missed. I can’t be upset with that as a fan and alum.
The only victim here might be the final hire. Due to the leak, it’s now public that they had Fisher as the #1 candidate, and I feel empathy for that coach.
There are many strategic leaks in the college football coaching ranks, less so in other fields. If the leak came out of Penn St, it was a mistake IMO. 1 day of buzz wasn’t worth it. If it came from Fisher, it seemed to help him financially.
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Post by nyline on Jan 8, 2022 9:14:04 GMT -5
Lotsa drama yesterday for fans. The drama really only made it into the fan sphere because information was leaked by someone and social media now allows a leak to spread so rapidly. We, as fans, really don’t know how often this sort of thing happens because it depends on the existence of a leak. A lot of the narrative on VT is speculation. As far as folks saying it’s either terrible that Penn St lost their #1 candidate or saying this is evidence of AD dysfunction, I’d respectfully suggest otherwise. They went after THE top possible candidate and juuust missed. I can’t be upset with that as a fan and alum. The only victim here might be the final hire. Due to the leak, it’s now public that they had Fisher as the #1 candidate, and I feel empathy for that coach. There are many strategic leaks in the college football coaching ranks, less so in other fields. If the leak came out of Penn St, it was a mistake IMO. 1 day of buzz wasn’t worth it. If it came from Fisher, it seemed to help him financially. I agree with you 100%. I very strongly doubt it was intentionally from Penn State -- there was no incentive that I can conjure up for Penn State to leak a process that was moving forward -- and even less to leak if the process was stalled. I also don't think the leak was intentionally from Fisher. He had to inform Pitt that he was leaving, so he would only leak if he thought that would prod Pitt to move forward with a contract extension. But I don't buy that as the most likely strategy. On balance, I think the leak was from someone who was aware of the negotiations, but more ancillary to the process. But to your main point, it apparently really was very, very close. I can't fault Penn State for trying. I also agree there will be some disappointment among some segment of the fan base over whomever is hired. And that won't be fair. But with good performance, that won't last. I truly hope the AD provides max support to whomever is chosen -- from top-level salaries to attract the best assistant(s), to recruiting budget, to administrative assistance. That's undoubtedly what Notre Dame is doing for Salima. Penn State should do no less for whomever is hired to succeed Russ Rose. |
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