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Post by treblejig on Dec 13, 2015 13:17:52 GMT -5
I mentioned this in passing, and I do hesitate to mention it again, but I will. As much as I enjoy listening to LB announce, it seems to me that any discussion that exposes the team's weaknesses or gives any inside info to the other team is ill-advised. If I were a coach of another team I would be all ears when she is on the air. I think in theory that is probably correct -- but I doubt any team monitors opponents' student broadcast teams, so I doubt that it is a problem. That said, you have a point. Perhaps there has not been reason to until now. I can't think of any other student broadcaster who is also a current team member.
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Post by fj11211 on Dec 13, 2015 13:32:54 GMT -5
I am a big PSU volleyball fan, but have never played or coached. Just watching from the outside, I want to say that our girls are human, and they are not going to be perfect "all the time". I suspect Frantti played with some injury against Hawii, because she is not an athlete to hit less than 10%. I remember Coach Rose said before, a kid can only hit the hard wood so many times before they get banged up. Remember Hancock said Frantti's nickname was "crazy" last year? I do not see the fire in her this year nearly as much, so I am pretty sure she is not 100%. I suspect Frantti will emerge as a dominant player next year, a Kelsey Robinson (6'2") type of player, who is on the national team now. When it comes to setting, BW was not the setter of the year for sure, but Hancock did not do very well in her first year as a setter either. BW deserves more time to be judged what she is made of. Not having many taller players (6'3" or taller), they have to run a much faster and dynamic offense next year. Defense was a big problem for 2015. Aside from not having Dom and Lacy level of performance from current roster, the frequent change in line up made it harder for players to gel. Next year we will see what Reed and Novakovic can do. I believe Lee will get much better and consistent next year as well. Santana from Minnesota was a mediocre player for a couple of years, and this year she is playing like a machine. Considering Minnesota did not make the postseason last year, but this year they have a chance to go all the way, PSU has reason to be optimistic as well.
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Post by nyline on Dec 13, 2015 14:13:15 GMT -5
I am a big PSU volleyball fan, but have never played or coached. Just watching from the outside, I want to say that our girls are human, and they are not going to be perfect "all the time". I suspect Frantti played with some injury against Hawii, because she is not an athlete to hit less than 10%. I remember Coach Rose said before, a kid can only hit the hard wood so many times before they get banged up. Remember Hancock said Frantti's nickname was "crazy" last year? I do not see the fire in her this year nearly as much, so I am pretty sure she is not 100%. I suspect Frantti will emerge as a dominant player next year, a Kelsey Robinson (6'2") type of player, who is on the national team now. When it comes to setting, BW was not the setter of the year for sure, but Hancock did not do very well in her first year as a setter either. BW deserves more time to be judged what she is made of. Not having many taller players (6'3" or taller), they have to run a much faster and dynamic offense next year. Defense was a big problem for 2015. Aside from not having Dom and Lacy level of performance from current roster, the frequent change in line up made it harder for players to gel. Next year we will see what Reed and Novakovic can do. I believe Lee will get much better and consistent next year as well. Santana from Minnesota was a mediocre player for a couple of years, and this year she is playing like a machine. Considering Minnesota did not make the postseason last year, but this year they have a chance to go all the way, PSU has reason to be optimistic as well. All good points. Having just come from Des Moines, Iowa, where people really do follow the 11th Commandment of Iowa (Be Nice), let me add "Come back and see us real soon, OK?"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 16:17:55 GMT -5
I am a big PSU volleyball fan, but have never played or coached. Just watching from the outside, I want to say that our girls are human, and they are not going to be perfect "all the time". I suspect Frantti played with some injury against Hawii, because she is not an athlete to hit less than 10%. I remember Coach Rose said before, a kid can only hit the hard wood so many times before they get banged up. Remember Hancock said Frantti's nickname was "crazy" last year? I do not see the fire in her this year nearly as much, so I am pretty sure she is not 100%. I suspect Frantti will emerge as a dominant player next year, a Kelsey Robinson (6'2") type of player, who is on the national team now. When it comes to setting, BW was not the setter of the year for sure, but Hancock did not do very well in her first year as a setter either. BW deserves more time to be judged what she is made of. Not having many taller players (6'3" or taller), they have to run a much faster and dynamic offense next year. Defense was a big problem for 2015. Aside from not having Dom and Lacy level of performance from current roster, the frequent change in line up made it harder for players to gel. Next year we will see what Reed and Novakovic can do. I believe Lee will get much better and consistent next year as well. Santana from Minnesota was a mediocre player for a couple of years, and this year she is playing like a machine. Considering Minnesota did not make the postseason last year, but this year they have a chance to go all the way, PSU has reason to be optimistic as well. All good points but I ask you to please allow the defense the same courtesy you give to BW. Remember, they are all virtually first year players on the court too as Dom and Lacey really never came out of a game for the past two years.
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Post by traveler on Dec 13, 2015 17:03:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Santana is graduating. Daly better be graduating, I've been watching her for four years. Santana was always a threat; but without looking at her stats...just watching her perform (except when they were @ PSU), i thought she stepped it up a notch and was the most complete player out there this year. The BIG POY award very deserved for her this year.
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Post by canda on Dec 13, 2015 17:23:40 GMT -5
Santana was also helped by a very good supporting cast, that included the Tapp sisters and Seliger-Swenson, the setter.
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Post by traveler on Dec 13, 2015 17:31:07 GMT -5
Wasn't Yanz the one who was waving the camo jacket at the 2008 Semi-final? I heard rumors about Longo's departure, but no negatives afterward. Prieto-Cerame left for whatever reasons, but haven't heard negatives from either side since. It's nice when both sides keep in on the down low. No, that was an injured MB whose name I have blocked from my memory (I think of her only as "Camo Jacket Waving Girl") Yanz history as i understand it: went to NE but was not released by PSU. I believe she left because Glass took over the 6-2 offense early that year, although they won the NC. So, when she got to NE, she had to sit a year. then the next year not sure they needed her. she graduated with a year of eligibility left. the next spring, Dayton found itself suddenly without a setter (see Kacie Hausfeld story, linked to Megan Courtney). Coach Sheffield had her enroll as a grad student. She helped lead the team to I THINK the sweet 16. i think in all 3 cases...Yanz, Longo, Prieto...there were players who wanted to be out there playing more, and maybe some other issues we're blissfully unaware of. But my original comments were in praise of the ones who may have felt they deserved more time but stayed with the team, nonetheless. Look how that turned out for Caraway, who ended up playing more this year than ever before...and i understand she made huge leadership contributions that are less glamorous and less visible. Yay team.
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Post by goldengoal on Dec 13, 2015 20:02:36 GMT -5
Yes, good for those who stay despite lack of playing time, but it is only fair to point out that undoubtedly some of them stay because they have nowhere else to go. The unknowable I am most curious about is how the season might have ended had the coaches stayed with the team that began the season, with Pierce and Thelan starting. Because after all the tinkering throughout the middle 30-or-so games, that's what we had at the end. Maybe Pierce, like Holcomb, would have been worn out; but maybe her serve-receive would have improved. And perhaps Thelan would have developed a more consistent offense to go with her blocking; but maybe not. It could be PSU just did not have the players this year, but it could also have be that the PSU players were not deployed in the most effective way. I know that is a heretical statement for this site, so spare me the rhetorical questions of whether or not I think I know the players or the game of volleyball better than Rose. I don't.
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Post by bob2061 on Dec 13, 2015 21:48:14 GMT -5
All of the remaining teams are strong at every position including serving. I am always impressed with our teams that get stronger as season nears end. I have to believe there were injuries that we were not told about.
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Post by bob2061 on Dec 13, 2015 21:53:17 GMT -5
That talent you are referring to is spread pretty thick in Minnesota. They are looking like the new dynasty with a franchise freshman setter, who is the second coming of Luaren Carlini.. I'm pretty sure Santana is graduating. Hopefully.
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Post by cross5 on Dec 13, 2015 22:37:24 GMT -5
Yes, good for those who stay despite lack of playing time, but it is only fair to point out that undoubtedly some of them stay because they have nowhere else to go. The unknowable I am most curious about is how the season might have ended had the coaches stayed with the team that began the season, with Pierce and Thelan starting. Because after all the tinkering throughout the middle 30-or-so games, that's what we had at the end. Maybe Pierce, like Holcomb, would have been worn out; but maybe her serve-receive would have improved. And perhaps Thelan would have developed a more consistent offense to go with her blocking; but maybe not. It could be PSU just did not have the players this year, but it could also have be that the PSU players were not deployed in the most effective way. I know that is a heretical statement for this site, so spare me the rhetorical questions of whether or not I think I know the players or the game of volleyball better than Rose. I don't. I think we all have a few "what ifs." These that you mention and I'm sure others may have are fair questions. I don't think it is heretical. It just seems the way things played out this year a lot more things had to go right for individuals and the team then previous years.
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Post by seeyajohn on Dec 13, 2015 22:55:04 GMT -5
Perhaps this is a bit off this topic, but someone earlier mentioned that Russ Rose said that he failed to recognize the impact on recruiting of the change to rally scoring. I have read that elsewhere but I don't understand it.
How did the change impact recruiting?
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Post by lionsfan on Dec 13, 2015 23:16:40 GMT -5
Wasn't Yanz the one who was waving the camo jacket at the 2008 Semi-final? I heard rumors about Longo's departure, but no negatives afterward. Prieto-Cerame left for whatever reasons, but haven't heard negatives from either side since. It's nice when both sides keep in on the down low. No, that was an injured MB whose name I have blocked from my memory (I think of her only as "Camo Jacket Waving Girl") Kori Cooper...who was redshirting that year. Although your moniker is funnier.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 23:50:59 GMT -5
Yes, good for those who stay despite lack of playing time, but it is only fair to point out that undoubtedly some of them stay because they have nowhere else to go. The unknowable I am most curious about is how the season might have ended had the coaches stayed with the team that began the season, with Pierce and Thelan starting. Because after all the tinkering throughout the middle 30-or-so games, that's what we had at the end. Maybe Pierce, like Holcomb, would have been worn out; but maybe her serve-receive would have improved. And perhaps Thelan would have developed a more consistent offense to go with her blocking; but maybe not. It could be PSU just did not have the players this year, but it could also have be that the PSU players were not deployed in the most effective way. I know that is a heretical statement for this site, so spare me the rhetorical questions of whether or not I think I know the players or the game of volleyball better than Rose. I don't. Krause also started at the beginning of the year. Everybody seems to forget that. When the change went to Rivera, they didn't win a meaningful match after that. You can argue all you want about ability, but volleyball is a lot about chemistry, and that was missing IMO after the switch to Whitney in the middle and Rivera in the one position.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 3:49:30 GMT -5
Perhaps this is a bit off this topic, but someone earlier mentioned that Russ Rose said that he failed to recognize the impact on recruiting of the change to rally scoring. I have read that elsewhere but I don't understand it. How did the change impact recruiting? Russ said that in 2000 when rally scoring began in the NCAA, he was still recruiting smaller, faster, scrappier type players, who were really good in the sideout system. Only few years later did he realize he needed to be recruiting much taller, less athletic players who could help score in any type of play in the rally scoring system. That's what I remember, if memory serves me correct.
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