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Post by cross5 on Aug 28, 2016 10:10:10 GMT -5
From a simple stat perspective it was not PSU volleyball. I appreciate Coach Rose concern at setter but the teams 1st contact was really not consistent at all from game 2 on. In defense of them I will say that Coach started to throw some wrinkles into the subbing situation that the girls didn't handle very well.
When you get your shot when or where ever you have be ready and dialed in. It is early and as we see around the country very ......VERY few teams have an identity and hit it right out of the gate.
Reception errors us 8 them 5 Blocking us 9 them 13.5 Hitting percentage us .204 them .214
This is a telling stat below of yes, the setter but (imo) more of the serve/serve receive battle that wasn't up to par
Sideout % Them Team Attack By Set Set K E TA Pct Sideout Pct 1 11 3 34 . 2 3 5 1 3 - 2 4 54% 2 10 8 32 . 0 6 2 1 2 - 2 3 52% 3 10 4 27 . 2 2 2 1 4 - 2 4 58% 4 13 4 45 . 2 0 0 1 4 - 2 4 58% 5 12 3 21 . 4 2 9 7 - 9 77% 6 0 - 1 0 4 57%
Sideout % US Team Attack By Set Set K E TA Pct Sideout Pct 1 19 2 31 . 5 4 8 1 4 - 1 7 82% 2 9 8 30 . 0 3 3 1 1 - 2 4 45% 3 15 6 36 . 2 5 0 1 5 - 2 2 68% 4 13 9 47 . 0 8 5 1 3 - 2 4 54% 5 4 2 18 . 1 1 1 7 - 1 5 46% 6 0 - 1 0 2 58%
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Post by tillie1014 on Aug 28, 2016 11:10:35 GMT -5
How many subs are permitted now? Was it changed recently?
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Post by bob2061 on Aug 28, 2016 14:44:16 GMT -5
Rose gave the 2nd set away with terrible choices for serving. It was obvious that North Carolina was in much better physical condition than us, they simply wore us down. Our blocking was non-existent for the last two sets. Franti will probably never be the player she was before her back troubles, which really hurts our offense. I also watched Nebraska sweep Texas and I can tell you it is going to be a long season. In matches with the outcome in doubt I can't understand why we are playing walk-ons when seasoned scholarship players are standing on the sidelines. I really think coaching determined the outcome of this match. Hopefully we will learn from our mistakes and get better.
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Post by cross5 on Aug 28, 2016 15:05:55 GMT -5
Rose gave the 2nd set away with terrible choices for serving. It was obvious that North Carolina was in much better physical condition than us, they simply wore us down. Our blocking was non-existent for the last two sets. Franti will probably never be the player she was before her back troubles, which really hurts our offense. I also watched Nebraska sweep Texas and I can tell you it is going to be a long season. In matches with the outcome in doubt I can't understand why we are playing walk-ons when seasoned scholarship players are standing on the sidelines. I really think coaching determined the outcome of this match. Hopefully we will learn from our mistakes and get better. Every coach makes MANY decisions that don't go to plan. That being said I would say yes the situational substitutions were unique and our players weren't prepared for them and not just the one at the end of the game 2. It was difficult for all involved. Live and learn and be prepared and sharpened for anything.
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Post by seeyajohn on Aug 28, 2016 15:32:08 GMT -5
I finally had a chance to watch the NC match this afternoon. Strange match. PSU had control of every set and had the match won but headed to the locker room two points too early!
Rotation 4 (Back row – Rivera, White, Lee. Front row – Frantti, Washington, Weiskercher/Detering) had a disastrous match. They yielded an astonishingly low side out rate of 34.4%. They managed to side out 11 times while giving up 21 points on the opponents serve. Adding in the 13 points yielded on their own serve, rotation 4 accounted for 34 of NC’s 102 points (= 1/3 of total). They were on the floor for both the 7 point NC run that stole set 4 and the 4 point NC run that closed out set 5.
Not having seen the match but having reviewed Game Tracker, I thought that Coles, the NC server might have been their Micha. But having seen the match, although Coles has a good jump serve, the passing was reasonably decent. Most of the points were lost on kill attempts by Ali and Haleigh plus a couple of ill-advised dump attempts by Brianna.
One other bit of strangeness came in set 2 when, after two consecutive Penn State points on Simone Lee’s serve put us up 22-20, Russ decided to sub Lainey for Simone. Perhaps he was guarding the lead by going with a more consistent server. Unfortunately, it backfired when Lainey’s serve was just out and NC was started on a 5-point run that took that set. (Rotation 2 for PSU this time).
North Carolina has a good team, but Penn State is better. Let’s hope that this match was an anomaly.
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Post by seeyajohn on Aug 28, 2016 15:34:08 GMT -5
Rose gave the 2nd set away with terrible choices for serving. It was obvious that North Carolina was in much better physical condition than us, they simply wore us down. Our blocking was non-existent for the last two sets. Franti will probably never be the player she was before her back troubles, which really hurts our offense. I also watched Nebraska sweep Texas and I can tell you it is going to be a long season. In matches with the outcome in doubt I can't understand why we are playing walk-ons when seasoned scholarship players are standing on the sidelines. I really think coaching determined the outcome of this match. Hopefully we will learn from our mistakes and get better. A daring statement in view of Coach Rose's stature in the profession.
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Post by psulion on Aug 28, 2016 16:28:16 GMT -5
Rose gave the 2nd set away with terrible choices for serving. It was obvious that North Carolina was in much better physical condition than us, they simply wore us down. Our blocking was non-existent for the last two sets. Franti will probably never be the player she was before her back troubles, which really hurts our offense. I also watched Nebraska sweep Texas and I can tell you it is going to be a long season. In matches with the outcome in doubt I can't understand why we are playing walk-ons when seasoned scholarship players are standing on the sidelines. I really think coaching determined the outcome of this match. Hopefully we will learn from our mistakes and get better. One would have to know a heck of a lot more than I do about the inner workings of women's college volleyball strategy to criticize Coach Rose. I consider him a veritable genius at building consistent championship-quality teams and therefore always give him the benefit of the doubt when things go awry, as they did last evening. From my uneducated perspective, I am still not convinced they have developed a team chemistry with either this team or last season's team. People with skill are on the court, but they ain't communicating with each other properly, in my humble opinion. And all those service errors, at this skill level?? I do hope they figure it out because I so look forward to the season and watching them play. And win!!!
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Post by traveler on Aug 28, 2016 18:10:11 GMT -5
things like keeping hitting errors down, serving success, that seemed to bode so well in the first two matches faltered v UNC. In fact, I was thinking it was a whole new team, based on error rate, after watching the first 2 matches. Wilma's serving had looked great for 2 matches, then she had a bunch of costly errors. I knew we were in trouble when the team got cocky in set 2 and looked at a serve, calling it out, as it landed in the court. Major offense to commit under Coach. Look at the UNC hitting stats. They weren't hitting well, and several were in the negative numbers. We should have been able to withstand this UNC team. Set 4: we were up 22-18. That's sitting in the cat bird's seat. Instead, we watched them floor it and pass us by. Unforgivable.
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Post by Millennium on Aug 28, 2016 19:15:02 GMT -5
After taking some time to digest this weekend's results, I can see one positive. I much rather prefer to suffer a few losses early in the season and watch the team get better as the season wears on, rather than see them regress late in the season like they did last year.
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Post by nyline on Aug 28, 2016 19:24:54 GMT -5
After taking some time to digest this weekend's results, I can see one positive. I much rather prefer to suffer a few losses early in the season and watch the team get better as the season wears on, rather than see them regress late in the season like they did last year. Agreed. And welcome back!
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Post by Millennium on Aug 28, 2016 19:30:11 GMT -5
After taking some time to digest this weekend's results, I can see one positive. I much rather prefer to suffer a few losses early in the season and watch the team get better as the season wears on, rather than see them regress late in the season like they did last year. Agreed. And welcome back! Thank you.
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Post by bob2061 on Aug 28, 2016 23:07:43 GMT -5
After taking some time to digest this weekend's results, I can see one positive. I much rather prefer to suffer a few losses early in the season and watch the team get better as the season wears on, rather than see them regress late in the season like they did last year. The only question I have is why do you even suggest a possibility that our team could regress late in the season? The coaching staff learned quite a bit about the character of the team and themselves this past weekend and will make the appropriate adjustments and we will get better. Some of our players are very talented and others not so much. You can bet opposing teams will attack our weakest players as often as they possibly can. This can present a problem when you want to see all of our players getting playing time but you want to also win the match. I guess that is why they pay the coaches the big bucks. BTW, even the greatest coaches can have a bad day.
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Post by seeyajohn on Aug 29, 2016 1:55:27 GMT -5
Having read all of the posts and Russ's comments it occurs to me that had Haleigh nailed her wide open slide kill at 23-19 in the fourth set, the set would likely have ended in our favor shortly thereafter and none of this conversation would be happening.
Of course that isn't what happened. She blasted it out of bounds (not blaming her for the loss - stuff happens) but that changed everything and the debacle ensued. I'm just saying it was razor close to a routine four set win and on to Colorado. Instead we are all in a state of doom and gloom.
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Post by Millennium on Aug 29, 2016 2:38:42 GMT -5
After taking some time to digest this weekend's results, I can see one positive. I much rather prefer to suffer a few losses early in the season and watch the team get better as the season wears on, rather than see them regress late in the season like they did last year. The only question I have is why do you even suggest a possibility that our team could regress late in the season? The coaching staff learned quite a bit about the character of the team and themselves this past weekend and will make the appropriate adjustments and we will get better. Some of our players are very talented and others not so much. You can bet opposing teams will attack our weakest players as often as they possibly can. This can present a problem when you want to see all of our players getting playing time but you want to also win the match. I guess that is why they pay the coaches the big bucks. BTW, even the greatest coaches can have a bad day. I was trying to make the comparison between last year's strong start, beating the likes of Stanford early and maintaining a #1 ranking, only to begin falling apart in the middle and later part of the 2015 season, which was a big let down. Whereas, if my expectations are low to begin 2016, then the only way to go is up.
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Post by cross5 on Aug 29, 2016 6:22:00 GMT -5
Having read all of the posts and Russ's comments it occurs to me that had Haleigh nailed her wide open slide kill at 23-19 in the fourth set, the set would likely have ended in our favor shortly thereafter and none of this conversation would be happening. Of course that isn't what happened. She blasted it out of bounds (not blaming her for the loss - stuff happens) but that changed everything and the debacle ensued. I'm just saying it was razor close to a routine four set win and on to Colorado. Instead we are all in a state of doom and gloom. Or had Lainy not missed by inches on what was actually a very good contacted serve. Had it landed for an ace many of us would have said genius move! Funny twist. I think we would all like to see a bit more grit from the players ultimately. That only happens to trial and error. Hopefully they will be stringer next time.
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