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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 0:46:29 GMT -5
Well having the two worst teams in conference same weekend with one of them maybe being one of worst programs in college it would be expected but next weekends back to back should counter balance that providing they win both. Colorado won again so that’s good for psu. That minny loss I don’t get. Does Penn State lose points for that if they beat minny but now gain for Illinois wins since they move up. It’s all confusing We lose points from Minny because their w/l % goes down but you also have to look at all of Penn State's past opponents to see if their w/l% went up or down today. That's just the 50% of RPI points. Still have to look at the other 25% of RPI score where you have to look at all of Penn State's opponent opponent w/l % for today. Lot's of numbers to deal with  Too much work. Hats off to you for doing it. |
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Post by pennstate1973 on Nov 19, 2017 1:10:18 GMT -5
It helps Penn State's RPI with Illinois beating Minnesota because we played Illinois twice. Even after we play Minnesota it still helps Penn State's RPI because we will have played Illinois twice and Minnesota once.
IMO it doesn't matter if Penn State was seeded #1 or #2 or even #3. It comes down to what teams are placed in the same bracket as Penn State and how Penn State matches up against them. Texas might be the team not hosting. The Longhorns have the least impressive resume of teams in contention for hosting. They have no top ten wins and less top 25 wins then the other contenders.
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Post by psumaui on Nov 19, 2017 16:05:08 GMT -5
Right now this is how top 10 stands in RPI. Will regular list which includes all AQ's tonight. Been busy with conference tournaments these last two days.
1 Florida SEC 0.7200 23-1
2 Kentucky SEC 0.7184 23-3
3 Texas BIG12 0.7133 22-2
4 Penn State BIG10 0.7110 27-1
5 Stanford PAC 0.7068 24-3
6 Nebraska BIG10 0.7009 24-4
7 Minnesota BIG10 0.6993 25-4
8 Washington PAC 0.6862 21-7
9 Wisconsin BIG10 0.6655 18-8
10 USC PAC 0.6646 21-8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 16:13:12 GMT -5
Right now this is how top 10 stands in RPI. Will regular list which includes all AQ's tonight. Been busy with conference tournaments these last two days. 1 Florida SEC 0.7200 23-1 2 Kentucky SEC 0.7184 23-3 3 Texas BIG12 0.7133 22-2 4 Penn State BIG10 0.7110 27-1 5 Stanford PAC 0.7068 24-3 6 Nebraska BIG10 0.7009 24-4 7 Minnesota BIG10 0.6993 25-4 8 Washington PAC 0.6862 21-7 9 Wisconsin BIG10 0.6655 18-8 10 USC PAC 0.6646 21-8 Well, I guess all PSU needs to do is win out. |
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Post by psumaui on Nov 20, 2017 0:23:01 GMT -5
ALL BELOW RANKINGS ARE PER LATEST OFFICIAL RPI:
With only one more week of regular season, the playoff picture is becoming clearer as for who is in or out. There are only 5 more AQ's to be determined. Here is what is left and their records:
Teams with no tournament: (unless otherwise noted, each team has 2 more matches to play and will be listed/linked on "Other matches to watch" tomorrow)
BIG 10 - Penn State (17-1), Nebraska (17-1) Nebraska has head to head TB for AQ
SEC - Florida (15-1), Kentucky (15-1) teams split series
ACC - Pittsburgh (16-2), Louisville (16-2) Louisville has head to head TB for AQ
Teams with tournament (These teams will be listed/linked on "Other matches to watch" tomorrow)
Big East - 24-25 Nov - Teams: 1. Creighton vs #4 Villanova; 2. Marquette vs #3 Butler (Big East Online stream)
Final - Winner of SF1 vs Winner of SF 2 (Fox Sports 2)
MVC - 23-25 Nov - Teams: QF1 - #4 Drake vs #5 Indiana State (ESPN3)
QF2 - #3 Illinois State vs #6 Valparaiso (ESPN3)
SF1 - #1 Missouri State vs Winner of QF 1 (ESPN3)
SF2 - #2 UNI vs Winner of QF 2 (ESPN3)
Final Winner SF1 vs Winner SF 2 (ESPN3)
Movement in RPI since Friday night after all Sunday's matches completed.
1 Kentucky SEC 0.7179 24-3
2 Florida SEC 0.7152 23-1
3 Texas BIG12 0.7113 22-2 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
4 Penn State BIG10 0.7107 27-1
5 Stanford PAC 0.7029 24-3 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
6 Nebraska BIG10 0.7005 24-4
7 Minnesota BIG10 0.6992 25-4
8 Washington PAC 0.6885 22-7
9 Wichita State AAC 0.6642 26-3 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
10 Wisconsin BIG10 0.6634 19-8
11 Southern California PAC 0.6617 21-8
12 Kansas BIG12 0.6606 22-6
13 Baylor BIG12 0.6589 23-5
14 Utah PAC 0.6580 21-8
15 Iowa State BIG12 0.6574 20-6
16 Creighton BE 0.6558 23-6
17 Michigan State BIG10 0.6535 20-7
18 BYU WCC 0.6502 27-2
19 Cal Poly BIGW 0.6493 26-2 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
19 Louisville ACC 0.6493 22-6 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
21 San Diego WCC 0.6486 24-4 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
22 Colorado PAC 0.6467 21-8
23 Oregon PAC 0.6407 16-10
24 UCLA PAC 0.6392 17-10
25 Purdue BIG10 0.6386 21-8
26 Pittsburgh ACC 0.6366 23-6
27 Illinois BIG10 0.6337 19-10
28 Oregon State PAC 0.6327 21-9
29 Western Kentucky CUSA 0.6275 30-3 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
30 Michigan BIG10 0.6213 19-11
31 Miami (Florida) ACC 0.6201 19-5
32 Marquette BE 0.6162 21-8
33 Colorado State MW 0.6160 27-3 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
34 LSU SEC 0.6102 19-7
35 Missouri SEC 0.6098 19-10
36 Notre Dame ACC 0.6090 21-8
37 VCU A10 0.6085 30-2 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
38 Washington State PAC 0.6047 16-14
39 Hawaii BIGW 0.6039 20-7
40 Florida State ACC 0.6027 16-10
41 North Carolina State ACC 0.6024 19-10
42 Ohio State BIG10 0.5986 14-15
43 Kennesaw State ASUN 0.5980 21-4 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
44 High Point BIGS 0.5979 24-7
45 Missouri State MVC 0.5974 26-5
46 Iowa BIG10 0.5961 18-13
52 James Madison CAA 0.5932 23-5 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
55 Denver SUMMT 0.5872 23-5 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
57 Austin Peay OVC 0.5838 30-5 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
60 Radford BIGS 0.5807 25-4 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
63 Princeton IVY 0.5777 18-7 - AQ - CONFERENCE WINNER
64 American PAT 0.5749 26-7 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
65 Miami (Ohio) MAC 0.5738 23-8 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
67 Central Arkansas Southland 0.5692 27-4 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
71 North Dakota SKY 0.5642 30-7 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
72 Cleveland State HORZ 0.5624 21-7 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
74 Coastal Carolina SUN 0.5614 20-7 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
84 East Tennessee State Southern 0.5525 19-11 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
105 LIU Brooklyn NEC 0.5344 20-9 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
148 Fairfield MAAC 0.5115 25-6 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
168 Stony Brook AMEST 0.4974 18-12 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
186 Cal State Bakersfield WAC 0.4880 19-13 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
194 Alabama State SWAC 0.4820 28-10 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
241 Howard MEAC 0.4538 15-15 - AQ - CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT WINNER
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47 Auburn SEC 0.5960 15-10
47 Maryland BIG10 0.5960 17-13
49 Northern Iowa MVC 0.5955 25-7
50 College of Charleston CAA 0.5942 27-5
51 North Texas CUSA 0.5940 28-3
53 Dayton A10 0.5890 23-8
54 Butler BE 0.5889 23-7
56 Arkansas SEC 0.5851 18-10
58 Texas A&M SEC 0.5832 8-15 - ELIMINTATED
59 North Carolina ACC 0.5816 14-12
61 Georgia SEC 0.5784 19-10
62 Alabama SEC 0.5780 17-12
Red = Moved down
Green = Moved up
Purple = on bubble NOTE: some of these teams could move above cut off line if their RPI increases above #45. Also, the cut off line still can rise more because there are still AQ left below RPI #45.
Blue = less than .0010 points separate teams
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Final matches for top 10 teams
1. Kentucky - #61 Georgia
2. Florida - #35 Missouri
3. Texas - #13 Baylor
4. Penn State - #10 Wisconsin, #7 Minnesota
5. Stanford - #108 Cal
6. Nebraska - #46 Iowa
7. Minnesota - #224 Rutgers, #4 Penn State
8. Washington -#38 Washington State
9. Wisconsin - #4 Penn State, #224 Rutgers
10. USC - #24 UCLA
Blue - Highest ranking team left to play
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Post by Millennium on Nov 20, 2017 11:52:54 GMT -5
Wow! PSU got hit hard this week!!
I hope they will make it back next weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 13:08:56 GMT -5
Wow! PSU got hit hard this week!! I hope they will make it back next weekend. The rpi is funny. This just shows it’s a flawed system. |
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Post by traveler on Nov 20, 2017 15:11:06 GMT -5
OK, Officially from the NCAA RPI Site...
THE B1G
4 Penn St. Big Ten 27-1 10-0 5-0 12-1 0-0
6 Nebraska Big Ten 24-4 9-2 1-2 14-0 0-0
7 Minnesota Big Ten 25-4 9-3 6-0 10-1 0-0
10 Wisconsin Big Ten 19-8 6-5 2-0 11-3 0-0
17 Michigan St. Big Ten 20-7 5-5 4-0 11-2 0-0
25 Purdue Big Ten 21-8 7-5 4-0 10-3 0-0
28 Illinois Big Ten 19-10 7-5 6-0 6-5 0-0
30 Michigan Big Ten 19-11 3-8 3-0 13-3 0-0
42 Ohio St. Big Ten 14-15 4-7 2-0 8-8 0-0
46 Iowa Big Ten 18-13 6-5 2-1 10-7 0-0
47 Maryland Big Ten 17-13 4-8 4-0 9-5 0-0
87 Northwestern Big Ten 14-16 5-8 7-1 2-7 0-0
127 Indiana Big Ten 12-18 2-10 4-0 6-8 0-0
224 Rutgers Big Ten 5-25 1-11 3-4 1-10 0-0
PAC 12
5 Stanford Pac-12 24-3 12-1 2-2 10-0 0-0
8 Washington Pac-12 22-7 8-4 3-0 11-3 0-0
11 Southern California Pac-12 21-8 8-5 3-2 10-1 0-0
13 Utah Pac-12 21-8 7-4 4-0 10-4 0-0
22 Colorado Pac-12 21-8 7-5 3-1 11-2 0-0
23 Oregon Pac-12 16-10 4-5 1-1 11-4 0-0
24 UCLA Pac-12 17-10 7-6 3-0 7-4 0-0
27 Oregon St. Pac-12 21-9 7-6 5-1 9-2 0-0
37 Washington St. Pac-12 16-14 7-7 3-0 6-7 0-0
98 Arizona Pac-12 10-17 1-9 2-0 7-8 0-0
109 California Pac-12 13-16 2-10 2-0 9-6 0-0
138 Arizona St. Pac-12 10-20 2-9 5-1 3-10 0-0
TOP 64...
1 Kentucky Southeastern 24-3 8-2 3-0 13-1 0-0
2 Florida Southeastern 23-1 8-0 2-0 13-1 0-0
3 Texas Big 12 22-2 10-1 3-0 9-1 0-0
4 Penn St. Big Ten 27-1 10-0 5-0 12-1 0-0
5 Stanford Pac-12 24-3 12-1 2-2 10-0 0-0
6 Nebraska Big Ten 24-4 9-2 1-2 14-0 0-0
7 Minnesota Big Ten 25-4 9-3 6-0 10-1 0-0
8 Washington Pac-12 22-7 8-4 3-0 11-3 0-0
9 Wichita St. AAC 26-3 12-1 5-1 9-1 0-0
10 Wisconsin Big Ten 19-8 6-5 2-0 11-3 0-0
11 Southern California Pac-12 21-8 8-5 3-2 10-1 0-0
12 Kansas Big 12 22-6 9-3 5-0 8-3 0-0
13 Utah Pac-12 21-8 7-4 4-0 10-4 0-0
14 Baylor Big 12 23-5 8-2 3-1 12-2 0-0
15 Iowa St. Big 12 20-6 8-3 3-0 9-3 0-0
16 Creighton Big East 23-6 10-3 3-2 10-1 0-0
17 Michigan St. Big Ten 20-7 5-5 4-0 11-2 0-0
18 BYU West Coast 27-2 13-0 3-1 11-1 0-0
19 Cal Poly Big West 26-2 11-2 7-0 8-0 0-0
20 San Diego West Coast 23-4 10-1 3-1 10-2 0-0
21 Louisville Atlantic Coast 22-6 7-4 2-1 13-1 0-0
22 Colorado Pac-12 21-8 7-5 3-1 11-2 0-0
23 Oregon Pac-12 16-10 4-5 1-1 11-4 0-0
24 UCLA Pac-12 17-10 7-6 3-0 7-4 0-0
25 Purdue Big Ten 21-8 7-5 4-0 10-3 0-0
26 Pittsburgh Atlantic Coast 23-6 8-3 3-2 12-1 0-0
27 Oregon St. Pac-12 21-9 7-6 5-1 9-2 0-0
28 Illinois Big Ten 19-10 7-5 6-0 6-5 0-0
29 Western Ky. Conference USA 30-3 10-2 5-1 15-0 0-0
30 Michigan Big Ten 19-11 3-8 3-0 13-3 0-0
31 Miami (FL) Atlantic Coast 19-5 7-3 4-0 8-2 0-0
32 Marquette Big East 21-8 10-3 2-3 9-2 0-0
33 Colorado St. Mountain West 27-3 9-1 2-0 16-2 0-0
34 Missouri Southeastern 19-10 8-5 6-3 5-2 0-0
35 Notre Dame Atlantic Coast 21-8 7-4 1-0 13-4 0-0
36 VCU Atlantic 10 30-2 11-1 7-1 12-0 0-0
37 Washington St. Pac-12 16-14 7-7 3-0 6-7 0-0
38 LSU Southeastern 19-8 7-6 5-0 7-2 0-0
39 Hawaii Big West 20-7 7-1 0-0 13-6 0-0
40 Florida St. Atlantic Coast 16-10 5-5 2-0 9-5 0-0
41 NC State Atlantic Coast 19-10 5-5 3-2 11-3 0-0
42 Ohio St. Big Ten 14-15 4-7 2-0 8-8 0-0
43 Kennesaw St. ASUN 21-4 9-3 2-1 10-0 0-0
44 Missouri St. Missouri Valley 26-5 13-0 2-3 11-2 0-0
45 High Point Big South 24-7 10-2 3-2 11-3 0-0
46 Iowa Big Ten 18-13 6-5 2-1 10-7 0-0
47 Maryland Big Ten 17-13 4-8 4-0 9-5 0-0
48 UNI Missouri Valley 25-7 10-4 6-2 9-1 0-0
49 Auburn Southeastern 15-10 5-4 3-1 7-5 0-0
50 Col. of Charleston Colonial 27-5 9-3 4-1 14-1 0-0
51 James Madison Colonial 23-5 6-3 2-0 15-2 0-0
52 North Texas Conference USA 28-3 8-2 6-0 14-1 0-0
53 Dayton Atlantic 10 23-8 9-3 5-3 9-2 0-0
54 Butler Big East 23-7 7-4 4-0 12-3 0-0
55 Denver Summit League 23-5 6-3 3-1 14-1 0-0
56 Alabama Southeastern 18-12 5-7 3-1 10-4 0-0
57 Arkansas Southeastern 18-10 6-6 3-2 9-2 0-0
58 Austin Peay OVC 30-5 12-2 6-0 12-3 0-0
59 Texas A&M Southeastern 8-15 1-7 1-0 6-8 0-0
60 North Carolina Atlantic Coast 14-12 1-8 0-3 13-1 0-0
61 Radford Big South 25-4 11-1 6-1 8-2 0-0
62 Georgia Southeastern 19-10 7-4 2-2 10-4 0-0
63 Princeton Ivy League 18-7 7-4 4-2 7-1 0-0
64 American Patriot 26-7 9-2 2-2 15-3 0-0
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Post by Millennium on Nov 20, 2017 18:49:48 GMT -5
These three teams are top 3 in RPI?
1 Kentucky Southeastern 24-3 8-2 3-0 13-1 0-0
2 Florida Southeastern 23-1 8-0 2-0 13-1 0-0
3 Texas Big 12 22-2 10-1 3-0 9-1 0-0
Yeah, definitely a flawed system.
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Post by psumaui on Nov 21, 2017 5:11:41 GMT -5
These three teams are top 3 in RPI? 1 Kentucky Southeastern 24-3 8-2 3-0 13-1 0-0 2 Florida Southeastern 23-1 8-0 2-0 13-1 0-0 3 Texas Big 12 22-2 10-1 3-0 9-1 0-0 Yeah, definitely a flawed system. If Penn State wins out, I still see the committee seeding them #1. One match at a time though. Let's get the Badgers on Friday!  |
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Post by stillkicking on Nov 21, 2017 11:09:16 GMT -5
That's why these polls are for entertainment only. You tell me in what logical sense Kentucky can be #1. They lost to Creighton which sits at #16 with 6 losses they split there games with Florida which sits @ #2 and they lost to Kansas which is at #12. Now how in the sane world would that put them in front of Penn State,Florida and Texas. I don't know what that committee is smoking or drinking but I wold like to have some.
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Post by psumaui on Nov 21, 2017 14:03:40 GMT -5
That's why these polls are for entertainment only. You tell me in what logical sense Kentucky can be #1. They lost to Creighton which sits at #16 with 6 losses they split there games with Florida which sits @ #2 and they lost to Kansas which is at #12. Now how in the sane world would that put them in front of Penn State,Florida and Texas. I don't know what that committee is smoking or drinking but I wold like to have some. Thing is, this isn't a poll but a rating index which the committee uses to place teams in tournament. This index does not include anybody's opinion. This is about 90% of their selection process. The AVCA is however, just a poll and has no bearing on who get's in post season. |
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Post by traveler on Nov 21, 2017 15:20:03 GMT -5
Poll infö from AVCA appears in another thread. In that, PSU has 64 votes for 1st.
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Post by traveler on Nov 21, 2017 15:21:19 GMT -5
See thread titled 2017 DI Weekly Results - Updated 12 Nov 2017
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Post by stillkicking on Nov 21, 2017 17:53:07 GMT -5
Well thanks for educating me PSUMAUI. In that case there ratings index needs to be scrutinized.
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