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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 13:36:36 GMT -5
The defense by both teams was really fun to watch. Lot of long rallies and some of the digs were unbelievable. Was good to see Jonni Parker have such a good match. I was not impressed early on as she was not able to terminate very well. She seems to have adjusted pretty well. PSU seemed to get better through out the match. They showed a lot of fight. Jenna Hampton had some really GOOD digs. Very impressive.
Freshmen players are going to have good and bad days. I remember Coach Rose talking about that after the 2010 championship match. He said that the finals was the first time that Scott, Slay and Deja had all been on in the same match.
Interestingly, that 2010 team was the last Penn State team to lose to Purdue. I'd trade a loss to Purdue at Rec Hall for a rerun of the 2010 Team's success. I'm still looking for the place where a person can make those types of "deals." |
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Post by jojonito on Oct 12, 2018 16:34:15 GMT -5
If I'm not mistake, they also lost to Indiana too. The 'Lost' weekend.  It is interesting that that was the last time they lost to Purdue. Go figure. Tho in ways this is a similar team. I don't think that team had really vocal leadership. This team has vocal leadership, but is so young. |
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Post by bob2061 on Oct 12, 2018 16:35:06 GMT -5
I wish Coach could convert Amanda Phegley to a left side hitter for next year, She looks to hit a heavy ball and we need proven hitters for next year.
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Post by jojonito on Oct 12, 2018 16:42:38 GMT -5
I wish Coach could convert Amanda Phegley to a left side hitter for next year, She looks to hit a heavy ball and we need proven hitters for next year. I was thinking the same thing Was wondering who were going to be our pin hitters next year. Phegley doesn't seem adverse to it in some of her comments. |
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Post by traveler on Oct 12, 2018 16:49:20 GMT -5
We tend over the years to have slightly smaller OH and slightly taller OPP. So AP would not fit that mold. I'm thinking we develop Cathey and wait on the 2 excellent OHs set to enter next year.
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Post by Millennium on Oct 12, 2018 16:52:26 GMT -5
I wish Coach could convert Amanda Phegley to a left side hitter for next year, She looks to hit a heavy ball and we need proven hitters for next year. I was thinking the same thing Was wondering who were going to be our pin hitters next year. Phegley doesn't seem adverse to it in some of her comments.
This website provides that information for us. It's the reason I started coming here. You can see the recruiting matrix for the next couple years here:
For 2019, we have the following OH's coming in (all ranked on PrepVB): - Gabi Bailey, 6'1"
- Lauren Clark, 6'1"
- Sydney Ferguson, 6'2"
These 3 are ranked on Prepvolleyball -- Senior Aces #31, #44, #93 (this order doesn't correspond with the names above) - posted here:
You can see the complete list on Prepvolleyball, which is a subscription website, but worth the cost for most volleyball fans.
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Post by Millennium on Oct 12, 2018 16:55:59 GMT -5
We tend over the years to have slightly smaller OH and slightly taller OPP. So AP would not fit that mold. I'm thinking we develop Cathey and wait on the 2 excellent OHs set to enter next year.
Next year we'll have a plethora of OH's to choose from. Three rookies coming in--Bailey, Clark, and Ferguson--then we have Cathey, and possibly Phlegley. Of course, replacing Nia Reed and Taylor Leath (6 rotation) will be a tall task.
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Post by bob2061 on Oct 12, 2018 16:58:14 GMT -5
We tend over the years to have slightly smaller OH and slightly taller OPP. So AP would not fit that mold. I'm thinking we develop Cathey and wait on the 2 excellent OHs set to enter next year. I'm sure Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin would love for that to happen. Then we may have the shortest hitters in the conference. |
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 12, 2018 17:04:10 GMT -5
Technical question for the wiser persons who frequent this site. Serena Gray and to an extent Tori Gorrell had trouble getting past Purdue's block last night. Serena hit .125 and Tori hit .000. In prior matches, against all levels of competition, the quick middle attack has succeeded at a relatively high rate. Were last night's challenges due to great scouting by Purdue? Excellent play by Purdue's middles? Or something else? I ask because if Purdue can do this, so can other opponents. Watching the match, I did not perceive anything unusual on Penn State's side of the net. Not a wiser person, although I have been characterized as a wise-guy (not in the Goodfellows sense), but I'll take a crack. Purdue was serving us very tough, so that makes it more difficult to run a middle attack -- that's my first guess. Second -- Serena Gray has run hot-and-cold throughout the season, so I'm not surprised to see her go cold for a match, regardless of whatever else is going on. But she could get hot the next match -- again, somewhat apart from whatever the other team is doing. Third: Purdue's middles were pretty effective in the first set in particular, but also throughout the match (without looking at their stats to confirm this "off-the-cuff" ill-informed analysis). Fourth: both teams played really good defense from the backrow -- that lowers your hitting percentage. Fifth: Tori Gorrell didn't have a very good match offensively and was, I believe, replaced by Amanda Phegley, who had a very good match offensively. So at least one middle had a very good game offensively. Sixth: We were missing Kaitlyn Hord, who leads the team in hitting percentage. That had to have an effect. You are certainly a wiser person than I-though to be fair, it is not a very high bar to clear. I think all of the points you made are accurate. However, Tori is not a freshman, and in prior seasons had a reasonably high and generally consistent success rate. She has not played as much this season which might in part explain her results on Wednesday. But in this match, the majority of successful attacks by our middles were on the slide (thanks Amanda!). It just seemed like Purdue's middles were usually in position to stuff or get hands on the quick. I have not seen any of our other opponents do that to the degree we saw on Wednesday, and I just wondered why. |
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Post by Millennium on Oct 12, 2018 17:12:59 GMT -5
Not a wiser person, although I have been characterized as a wise-guy (not in the Goodfellows sense), but I'll take a crack. Purdue was serving us very tough, so that makes it more difficult to run a middle attack -- that's my first guess. Second -- Serena Gray has run hot-and-cold throughout the season, so I'm not surprised to see her go cold for a match, regardless of whatever else is going on. But she could get hot the next match -- again, somewhat apart from whatever the other team is doing. Third: Purdue's middles were pretty effective in the first set in particular, but also throughout the match (without looking at their stats to confirm this "off-the-cuff" ill-informed analysis). Fourth: both teams played really good defense from the backrow -- that lowers your hitting percentage. Fifth: Tori Gorrell didn't have a very good match offensively and was, I believe, replaced by Amanda Phegley, who had a very good match offensively. So at least one middle had a very good game offensively. Sixth: We were missing Kaitlyn Hord, who leads the team in hitting percentage. That had to have an effect. You are certainly a wiser person than I-though to be fair, it is not a very high bar to clear. I think all of the points you made are accurate. However, Tori is not a freshman, and in prior seasons had a reasonably high and generally consistent success rate. She has not played as much this season which might in part explain her results on Wednesday. But in this match, the majority of successful attacks by our middles were on the slide (thanks Amanda!). It just seemed like Purdue's middles were usually in position to stuff or get hands on the quick. I have not seen any of our other opponents do that to the degree we saw on Wednesday, and I just wondered why. Yeah, I loved the fact that Amanda could run a successful slide.
PS - Sometimes, if you lose your cursor place when replying to a post you quoted, you cannot get back into the proper place. Therefore, to fix that, you can switch the tabs at the bottom of the edit post page - switch from "Preview" tab to "BBCode" tab - while you're writing a text, then place your cursor back in the correct place (at the bottom).
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 12, 2018 17:16:31 GMT -5
We tend over the years to have slightly smaller OH and slightly taller OPP. So AP would not fit that mold. I'm thinking we develop Cathey and wait on the 2 excellent OHs set to enter next year. I'm sure Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin would love for that to happen. Then we may have the shortest hitters in the conference. Converting middles to pin hitters is not a simple task. It looks like the techniques are quite different. Each year, the staff needs to see how the group develops. So far, Jonni Parker has done an increasingly good job when she is at RS. If necessary, she may serve in that role in coming seasons. There have been years where we had a taller RS who could clean up the trash when we are out of system. It is possible that any of the current or incoming group will answer that need, regardless of height. In addition, we will need to see how well Gabby can block. She is not as tall as our setters have been in recent years, but is obviously quite athletic. If she struggles in the front row, then coach might explore a different system. |
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 12, 2018 17:28:39 GMT -5
PS - Sometimes, if you lose your cursor place when replying to a post you quoted, you cannot get back into the proper place. Therefore, to fix that, you can switch the tabs at the bottom of the edit post page - switch from "Preview" tab to "BBCode" tab - while you're writing a text, then place your cursor back in the correct place (at the bottom). Thanks my friend for trying. I am hopeless however. I trust you all will forgive my technical (and other) inadequacies. As to the slide, I know you were looking for it, and I was thinking about you when Amanda got her first kill, and then second, third, fourth and fifth. My memory is fuzzy, but I think she killed an over pass. But Amanda ran the slide quite well. Serena had a slide kill too, as did Tori. So your wish (and mine) was granted. I think I saw in some of the practice quotes that Serena and Katilyn did not run the slide when they were in high school. If true, that is surprising because they are both so athletic. But getting the timing and the route down is obviously not a simple thing. We were spoiled over the last four years watching Haley do it so effortlessly and with amazing success. We can hope that the slide will become and increasingly used part of our offense. |
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Post by jojonito on Oct 13, 2018 6:08:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Millennium. I wasn't clear when I was wondering who our pin hitters would be. I knew that we had a number coming in next year. I guess what I was wondering was who would take over the roles of Nia Reed and Taylor Leeth, and , sorta like elliotberton said, 'Who would take out the trash'. . I know that some of the hitters coming in are pretty highly rated, but haven't seen too many come in (to PSU) and as freshmen play as Adanna Rollins has for MN. Would purely love to see one of our 2019 OH recruits play like she is. Did Blair Brown play OPP or RS in 2010? Was thinking she was a pin hitter at 6' 5" but I'm really don't remember. Amanda Phegley looked so good offensively Wednesday that I would love to see her play a pin hitter next year, especially considering our embarrassment of riches at the MB position. However do realize that that is quite an adjustment. |
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Post by jojonito on Oct 13, 2018 6:12:18 GMT -5
Hey Millennium, since you're giving lessons on how to edit messages on the forum , I was wondering if there is any easy way to quote just part of a message from someone? Or do you quote the whole thing and delete the part you don't want to quote? Not having a lot of success in figuring it out. Thx! |
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Post by nyline on Oct 13, 2018 6:15:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Millennium. I wasn't clear when I was wondering who our pin hitters would be. I knew that we had a number coming in next year. I guess what I was wondering was who would take over the roles of Nia Reed and Taylor Leeth, and , sorta like elliotberton said, 'Who would take out the trash'. . I know that some of the hitters coming in are pretty highly rated, but haven't seen too many come in (to PSU) and as freshmen play as Adanna Rollins has for MN. Would purely love to see one of our 2019 OH recruits play like she is. Did Blair Brown play OPP or RS in 2010? Was thinking she was a pin hitter at 6' 5" but I'm really don't remember. Amanda Phegley looked so good offensively Wednesday that I would love to see her play a pin hitter next year, especially considering our embarrassment of riches at the MB position. However do realize that that is quite an adjustment. Blair Brown was an Opposite. Phegley looked good on the slide, but not sure how she would do at opposite. Not saying she wouldn't do well, but different skills are needed -- different swings, different approaches, etc. I think we fans sometimes think "how hard can it be to change positions? It's just moving over a couple of feet.". But it's really not that simple. At least one OH will need to be a six-rotation player. I doubt that's Amanda Phegley. And at least this season, RS is taken by Jonni Parker (who could move to OH, I would think). On a tangent, we also talk about using the 6-2 like it's just flipping a switch. Among other things, you need OHs (note the plural) who can play 6-rotations, or else you run out of substitutions. |
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It is interesting that that was the last time they lost to Purdue. Go figure. Tho in ways this is a similar team. I don't think that team had really vocal leadership. This team has vocal leadership, but is so young.
