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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 10:46:05 GMT -5
Can't resist telling anyone who might be interested that England's incredible rugby team smashed reigning champions New Zealand in the world cup semi-final this morning. Next weekend they will play the winners of France v Wales who play tomorrow (Sunday). Rugby is as big in the UK as football is in the US so this win is massive for us.
Also, my hometown women's volleyball team, the University of Nottingham, made it 2 wins out of 2 in the National Super League with a 3-1 home win over London Orcas. It was a closely fought, high quality match with our American imports helping to tip the balance in our favour. Just such a pity that their games are not publicised around campus. Penn State get 6000, Nottingham get 21! (and that's including me!)
If there's enough interest I'll keep these updates going.
Good luck to the Lions at Maryland tonight - no live broadcast in England but hoping it'll be on YouTube tomorrow morning
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Post by NittanyLions on Oct 26, 2019 13:28:53 GMT -5
Can you can write up a quick summary of the rules of rugby? It has always interested me, but never knew how scoring works.
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Post by traveler on Oct 26, 2019 13:33:51 GMT -5
Saw my first pro Rugby match last spring in Denver. Had the happy coincidence of sitting in front of a college coach who was explaining some of it to a companion. But the best part: ended up being a doubleheader w/a Commonwealth All Star team v US All Star...WOMEN. Much more scoring from the women and more of a sense of what the game was supposed to be about. England: BTW the Commonwealth team ended up on top.
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Post by stillkicking on Oct 27, 2019 8:00:23 GMT -5
I used to drive charter bus on the weekends, And this one weekend I did a charter from the Downtown athletic club in New York to Pennsylvania, It was for a Rugby Tournament, I sat in the stands and watched the game, I was very impressed with the game, It looked like the object of the game was " Kill the man with the ball ", I was back on the bus when the players came back all bloodied and beaten up, These guys were regular guys who just did this for fun, We then went to a local bar where all the teams gathered for some well earned drinks and camaraderie, I feel in love the sport, American football takes a lot of terms from this sport, And the thing that impressed me the most was the fact the only equipment they used were elbow pads and knee pads.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 15:01:33 GMT -5
Can you can write up a quick summary of the rules of rugby? It has always interested me, but never knew how scoring works.
The rugby rule book is huge but here's an extremely brief summary: 1) Scoring a 'try' is 5 points. It is not enough to simply run over the try-line with the ball or catch the ball in the 'end zone' - a player has to ground the ball with it being under his complete control. (Q. Why is an AF 'touchdown' so called when you don't actually have to touch it down?) 2) A 'conversion' kick follows a try and is worth an extra two points. It is similar to the AF 'point after' except that the kick is taken from a point corresponding to where the 'try' was grounded and at any point outwards at right angles from the try line. So if the try was grounded under the posts, the kick would be taken similar to where the 'point after' would be taken but if the try was grounded in the corner, the kick would be taken from any point along the sideline/touchline. 3) If an infringement of the rules is punishable by a penalty kick, this would be taken from the point where the infringement took place. If the kick goes through the posts successfully, this is worth 3 points. 4) A 'Drop Goal' is also worth 3 points. This kick can be taken at any time during open play and a player must drop the ball and strike it as it hits the ground. This is a very difficult skill with an oval ball and it is not attempted very often as it usually fails to go through the posts. The most common time to attempt it is when a match is tied with only a few minutes to go. I actually won a match (many years ago) with a drop goal when the score was 10-10 with a minute left, and was mobbed by my team. Great memory! 5) After a player running with the ball is stopped, held up or tackled to the ground, the game does not stop. Players from both teams contest (ie fight, but within the rules of course) to win possession. The tackled player can hold on to the ball until he is forced to the ground at which point he must release it. Several players from each side will then 'pile in' but must stay level with or behind the ball. This is called a 'ruck' if the ball is on the ground, or a 'maul' if the ball is held up. If the ball is successfully won by one team, then play continues with another run by whoever wins the ball from the ruck or maul. If the ball is trapped, the referee will blow the whistle and order a 'scrum' 6) A 'scrum' is when 8 of the 15 players from each side bind together in a specific formation and a 9th player 'feeds' the ball in to the middle, at which point the two 'eights' will push against each other to try and win the ball. The ball will come out of the back of the strongest eight and the 9th player (called the 'scrum half') will pick it up and start another run or pass to another player in a better position. 7) A pass can only be backwards or level. A forward pass will mean the referee will blow for a scrum with the non-offending team putting the ball into the 'tunnel' between the two 'eights'. If a player receiving a pass drops it to the ground, this is called a 'knock-on' and the referee will blow for a scrum with the non-offending team putting the ball into the scrum. The ball can be kicked forward at any time to any part of the pitch or 'into touch' (over the side line) 8) Players do not wear helmets but a tackle where any part of the neck or head is struck by the tackler, will immediately result in a penalty kick AND either a yellow card (10 minutes in the sin bin) or a red card (sending off for the rest of the match). Tacklers must also make every effort to wrap one or both arms around the ball-carrier; simply barging into a player is not allowed. Likewise, tackling or barging a player in open play who doesn't have the ball is not allowed and a penalty kick will be given. 9) When the ball goes 'in touch' (out of play over the touchline or sideline), a 'line-out' will held. The two sets of forwards (previously called the eights) will form two straight, parallel lines at right angles to the touchline where the ball went out. The ball is thrown in between these two lines and the players jump to try and win the ball. Whoever wins the ball will usually pass the ball in mid-air to the scrum half who is waiting at the side of the line. The scrum half, as before will then either start a run himself or pass to another player. 10) The 'offside' rules in rugby are very complex but in its simplest form, players must either be level with the ball or behind it. If they find themselves in front of the ball they must not attempt to interfere with the play in any way, otherwise they will be judged offside and a penalty kick will be given. In addition to the main points-scoring system, bonus points are awarded to teams scoring three or more tries, and also to teams losing by less than (I think) 5 points. Well that's it, in a nutshell. Did you understand it all? Are you going to start a rugby club in your neighbourhood? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 15:03:56 GMT -5
Can't resist telling anyone who might be interested that England's incredible rugby team smashed reigning champions New Zealand in the world cup semi-final this morning. Next weekend they will play the winners of France v Wales who play tomorrow (Sunday). Rugby is as big in the UK as football is in the US so this win is massive for us. Also, my hometown women's volleyball team, the University of Nottingham, made it 2 wins out of 2 in the National Super League with a 3-1 home win over London Orcas. It was a closely fought, high quality match with our American imports helping to tip the balance in our favour. Just such a pity that their games are not publicised around campus. Penn State get 6000, Nottingham get 21! (and that's including me!) If there's enough interest I'll keep these updates going. Good luck to the Lions at Maryland tonight - no live broadcast in England but hoping it'll be on YouTube tomorrow morning It's England v South Africa in the world cup final next weekend. Very excited! Will any of the US sports channels broadcast it? |
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Post by traveler on Oct 27, 2019 15:54:09 GMT -5
Apparently NBC will cover on NBC Gold...which I assume is a premium channel.
In Denver, just get up really early and go to a variety of bars. Guarantee it'll be on.
Best of luck!
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Post by NittanyLions on Oct 27, 2019 16:04:23 GMT -5
Can you can write up a quick summary of the rules of rugby? It has always interested me, but never knew how scoring works.
The rugby rule book is huge but here's an extremely brief summary: ... Well that's it, in a nutshell. Did you understand it all? Are you going to start a rugby club in your neighbourhood? Thank you. It will certainly help next time I watch a match. No, I'm too old.
Getting 11 to play AF was nearly impossible, I can only imagine how hard it would be to get 30 people from the neighborhood to play Rugby.
I played AF when I was younger, but going to work afterwards was martyrdom. I enjoyed the camaraderie, though, eating pizza and drinking beers with the boys.
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Post by traveler on Oct 28, 2019 8:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by nyline on Oct 28, 2019 9:19:43 GMT -5
I am confident that DigNittanyVolleyball is the only NCAA women's volleyball site anywhere that also has a World Rugby thread. Well done Dave!
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 28, 2019 13:17:22 GMT -5
My law school fielded a club team and my roommate played as the "hooker." My daughter played briefly in college, shockingly since she is/was an accomplished musician and quite correctly finished up in the marching band. But despite her modest size, she was a "prop."
While I find Rugby fascinating, I cannot quite understand the scrum rules nor when a violation for "knock on" has occurred. Observing Rugby always makes me think how confusing it must be for spectators to watch a US sport for the first time. If one does not grow up with a game, the rules seem arcane and complicated.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 15:48:56 GMT -5
My law school fielded a club team and my roommate played as the "hooker." My daughter played briefly in college, shockingly since she is/was an accomplished musician and quite correctly finished up in the marching band. But despite her modest size, she was a "prop." While I find Rugby fascinating, I cannot quite understand the scrum rules nor when a violation for "knock on" has occurred. Observing Rugby always makes me think how confusing it must be for spectators to watch a US sport for the first time. If one does not grow up with a game, the rules seem arcane and complicated. You have to brave to be a hooker or a prop - these are the front line (or front row) of the scrum and they have to bind on to the opposition front row. The higher the level of play, the more shenanigans go on in the front row and at professional level, front row players almost always have battered faces and cauliflower ears. What fun! I was a fly-half, otherwise known as a 'glory boy' who used to receive passes from the scrum half and generally be a quarterback type of playmaker. Also I used to kick all the conversions and penalties. Knock-Ons are quite simple - it's when you drop the ball onto the ground and it goes forward. This can be when you fail to catch a pass or when you are running with the ball and after being tackled, you lose hold of the ball and it goes forward. Also it can be when trying to pick up a loose ball and you nudge it forwards. The scrum rules are very complicated and numerous. Even international players will often fail to understand a referee's interpretation of the rules! If you think rugby rules are arcane you should try understanding cricket! Some of the fielding positions in cricket are: Silly Mid-On, Gully, Long Leg, Short Leg, Point, Wide Mid-Off, Long On, Third Man, Deep Mid-Wicket, 3rd Slip, Extra Cover, and several others. In cricket, when it's a batsman's turn to be in he has to walk out to be in and then he has to try to not get out but when he is out he has to go back in until all his team are out. Oh I do love England! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 15:56:49 GMT -5
Good to see! Confident we'll beat South Africa and become world champions. Come on England!!! |
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Post by elliotberton on Oct 28, 2019 16:23:02 GMT -5
My law school fielded a club team and my roommate played as the "hooker." My daughter played briefly in college, shockingly since she is/was an accomplished musician and quite correctly finished up in the marching band. But despite her modest size, she was a "prop." While I find Rugby fascinating, I cannot quite understand the scrum rules nor when a violation for "knock on" has occurred. Observing Rugby always makes me think how confusing it must be for spectators to watch a US sport for the first time. If one does not grow up with a game, the rules seem arcane and complicated. You have to brave to be a hooker or a prop - these are the front line (or front row) of the scrum and they have to bind on to the opposition front row. The higher the level of play, the more shenanigans go on in the front row and at professional level, front row players almost always have battered faces and cauliflower ears. What fun! I was a fly-half, otherwise known as a 'glory boy' who used to receive passes from the scrum half and generally be a quarterback type of playmaker. Also I used to kick all the conversions and penalties. Knock-Ons are quite simple - it's when you drop the ball onto the ground and it goes forward. This can be when you fail to catch a pass or when you are running with the ball and after being tackled, you lose hold of the ball and it goes forward. Also it can be when trying to pick up a loose ball and you nudge it forwards. The scrum rules are very complicated and numerous. Even international players will often fail to understand a referee's interpretation of the rules! If you think rugby rules are arcane you should try understanding cricket! Some of the fielding positions in cricket are: Silly Mid-On, Gully, Long Leg, Short Leg, Point, Wide Mid-Off, Long On, Third Man, Deep Mid-Wicket, 3rd Slip, Extra Cover, and several others. In cricket, when it's a batsman's turn to be in he has to walk out to be in and then he has to try to not get out but when he is out he has to go back in until all his team are out. Oh I do love England! Of course no rule is more difficult to understand, explain or enforce than offside in Football (er Soccer). I visited England twice as a high school student and was taken with its history and the kindness of its citizens-nearly all of whom bought me beer (which is a big deal when one is a 14 year old American). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 5:31:02 GMT -5
Big day tomorrow for England sports fans - final of the Rugby World Cup in Japan. England v South Africa, kick-off 9am UK time. Middle of the night in the US but hopefully lots of Americans will watch on catch-up when they get up on Saturday morning. I'll resist putting a celebratory post on until Saturday afternoon, US time. (Of course we'll be celebrating - England will definitely win!)
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