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Post by traveler on Sept 13, 2021 14:18:47 GMT -5
Sitting now at #20, Stan slipped too
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Post by traveler on Sept 13, 2021 14:22:14 GMT -5
WEEK OF 9/13...The Week of Shutes and Ladders
Team (1stVotes) Total Record Last Rank
Votes
1 Texas (53) 1589 7-0 1
2 Wisconsin (11) 1547 6-0 2
3 Ohio State 1444 8-0 4
4 Pittsburgh 1415 8-0 4
5 Louisville 1243 6-0 10
6 Nebraska 1216 6-1 3 Down 3 (lost in 5 to Utah at home!)
7 Washington 1178 5-1 9
8 Kentucky 1066 6-2 8
9 Purdue 1042 5-1 6 Down 3 (punishment for getting blanked by Louisville on neutral court)
10 Utah 975 7-0 20 Beat NE, advance 10 steps....
11 Minnesota 955 3-3 13 Up 2
12 Baylor 886 3-3 17 Up 5
13 Oregon 854 6-1 11
14 Florida 805 4-3 7 down 7 (lost 2 home matches to Baylor)
15 BYU 792 7-1 12
16 Stanford 664 4-2 14 down 2
17 Creighton 535 9-1 19
18 Georgia Tech 454 7-1 21
19 UCLA 437 5-1 16
20 Penn State 406 5-3 18 Down 2
21 San Diego 295 5-2 25
22 Tennessee 274 6-1 23
23 Western Kentucky 254 8-1 15
24 Pepperdine 238 7-1 22
25 Colorado 64 8-0 NR
Teams w/2+ votes: Marquette 41; South Carolina 32; North Carolina 22; Rice 21; Ole Miss 14; Michigan 8; UNLV 6; West Virginia 5.
2 teams mentioned on only one ballot for a total of 11 combined points.
Dropped Out: South Carolina 24.
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Post by nyline on Sept 13, 2021 15:48:29 GMT -5
WEEK OF 9/13 Team (1stVotes) Total Record Last Rank Votes 1 Texas (53) 1589 7-0 1 2 Wisconsin (11) 1547 6-0 2
3 Ohio State 1444 8-0 44 Pittsburgh 1415 8-0 4 5 Louisville 1243 6-0 10 6 Nebraska 1216 6-1 3 Down 3 (lost in 5 to Utah at home!)7 Washington 1178 5-1 9 8 Kentucky 1066 6-2 8 9 Purdue 1042 5-1 6 Down 3 (punishment for getting blanked by Louisville on neutral court)10 Utah 975 7-0 20 Beat NE, advance 10 steps.... 11 Minnesota 955 3-3 13 Up 212 Baylor 886 3-3 17 Up 5 13 Oregon 854 6-1 11 14 Florida 805 4-3 7 down 7 (lost 2 home matches to Baylor) 15 BYU 792 7-1 12 16 Stanford 664 4-2 14 down 2 17 Creighton 535 9-1 19 18 Georgia Tech 454 7-1 21 19 UCLA 437 5-1 16
20 Penn State 406 5-3 18 Down 221 San Diego 295 5-2 25 22 Tennessee 274 6-1 23 23 Western Kentucky 254 8-1 15 24 Pepperdine 238 7-1 22 25 Colorado 64 8-0 NR Teams w/2+ votes: Marquette 41; South Carolina 32; North Carolina 22; Rice 21; Ole Miss 14; Michigan 8; UNLV 6; West Virginia 5. 2 teams mentioned on only one ballot for a total of 11 combined points. Dropped Out: South Carolina 24. Actually, that's better than I expected. |
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Post by traveler on Sept 20, 2021 14:01:35 GMT -5
WEEK of 9/20. PSU holds at #20.
# Schl 1st Pts Rec Last#
1 Texas (53) 1589 8-0 1 "
2 Wisconsin (11)1547 8-0 2 "
3 Ohio State 1426 10-0 3 "
4 Pittsburgh 1403 10-0 4 "
5 Louisville 1386 8-0 5 "
6 Washington 1210 7-1 7
7T Kentucky 1153 7-3 8
7T Purdue 1153 8-1 9
9 Minnesota 1038 4-3 11
10 Baylor 962 5-3 12
11 BYU 920 9-1 15
12 Nebraska 896 6-3 6 whoopsie-dazie
13 Oregon 863 9-1 13
14 Stanford 841 5-3 16
15 Utah 654 7-2 10 down 5
16 Creighton 602 12-1 17
17 Florida 574 6-4 14 down 3
18 Georgia Tech 533 9-1 18
19 UCLA 445 7-1 19
20 Penn State 427 7-3 20
21 Tennessee 289 8-2 22
22 W Kentucky 256 11-1 23
23 Pepperdine 240 8-1 24
24 Colorado 128 10-0 25
25 San Diego 114 6-3 21 down 4
At least 2 votes went to: Marquette 41; North Carolina 39; Florida State 16; South Carolina 16; Ole Miss 12; UNLV 10; Boise State 7; Michigan 6; Rice 4
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Post by nyline on Sept 20, 2021 20:35:37 GMT -5
WEEK of 9/20. PSU holds at #20.# Schl 1st Pts Rec Last# 1 Texas (53) 1589 8-0 1 " 2 Wisconsin (11)1547 8-0 2 "3 Ohio State 1426 10-0 3 "4 Pittsburgh 1403 10-0 4 " 5 Louisville 1386 8-0 5 " 6 Washington 1210 7-1 7 7T Kentucky 1153 7-3 8 7T Purdue 1153 8-1 99 Minnesota 1038 4-3 1110 Baylor 962 5-3 12 11 BYU 920 9-1 15 12 Nebraska 896 6-3 6 whoopsie-dazie 13 Oregon 863 9-1 13 14 Stanford 841 5-3 16 15 Utah 654 7-2 10 down 5 16 Creighton 602 12-1 17 17 Florida 574 6-4 14 down 3 18 Georgia Tech 533 9-1 18 19 UCLA 445 7-1 19 20 Penn State 427 7-3 2021 Tennessee 289 8-2 22 22 W Kentucky 256 11-1 23 23 Pepperdine 240 8-1 24 24 Colorado 128 10-0 25 25 San Diego 114 6-3 21 down 4 At least 2 votes went to: Marquette 41; North Carolina 39; Florida State 16; South Carolina 16; Ole Miss 12; UNLV 10; Boise State 7; Michigan 6; Rice 4 I think there is a lot of future movement built into those rankings. |
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Post by jojonito on Sept 21, 2021 16:29:53 GMT -5
Gotta agree. Louisville is a good team I think, but their ranked wins are Kentucky, a good team but not a great team, Purdue, who hit .124 against Louisville and Nebraska, who hit .046 against Louisville. Pittsburg's ranked wins are against Rice, no longer in the top 25, Washington St, no longer in the top 25, Baylor, who may be a decent team eventually. Purdue and Nebraska are, I think, considerably overanked, as neither team's OH's are doing zip. Nebraska is having difficulty with serve receive and serving. Nebraska's serving in prior years has usually put pressure on their opponents, but doesn't seem to be doing that this year. Louisville had 5 aces against Nebraska and Nebraska only had 1 ace. Lexi Sun baffles me. I thought, going into this year, that she was a hitter on par with Jonni, who would be able get kills even on not so good sets. Maybe she is hurt a bit, or maybe just not as good as I thought she was. (Perish the thought  ). It's looking to me like the B1G is a bit down this year. Wisconsin is an excellent team this year, and MINN will be pretty good along with OH ST; OH ST might be an excellent team this year if they improve over last year. Purdue, Nebraska and, I fear, PSU are teams that at best will be in the teens somewhere. I'm thinking that PSU has a good shot against all of the B1G teams except for WISC, MINN and OH St. And on good nites PSU has a chance against MINN and OH St. Looking at the polls earlier on, I was thinking that wins against Nebraska and Purdue would be really hard. But, on the negative side, Nebraska is ALWAYS up for PSU. So, no matter how poorly they play during the year, Nebraska will probably play pretty good against PSU. As some analysts have said, WISC and TX are on a level all their own. |
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Post by traveler on Sept 21, 2021 18:18:07 GMT -5
I was baffled by TOSU on Sunday. IIRC they handled NotreDame (NR) easily on Friday on the road; then at home on Sunday which I watched, they played the first set in dominating fashion but ended up with the match going down to the wire. Looked somewhat beatable.
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Post by traveler on Sept 26, 2021 21:39:36 GMT -5
WEEK of 9/20. PSU holds at #20.# Schl 1st Pts Rec Last# AND NOW, notable performances1 Texas (53) 1589 8-0 1 " Played last Wed, did not play this weekend (argues for #4 and #5 to get some #1 votes?) 2 Wisconsin (11)1547 8-0 2 " split 1-1, one loss to an unranked team 3 Ohio State 1426 10-0 3 " went 0-2, v #7 and #20 4 Pittsburgh 1403 10-0 4 " went 2-0 in the ACC 5 Louisville 1386 8-0 5 " went 2-0 in the ACC 6 Washington 1210 7-1 7 taken to 46-44 in set 4 and lost in 5 to WSU; 0-2 in PAC12 after also losing to #15UTAH 7T Kentucky 1153 7-3 8 played only one match this week in SEC (W v UMo) 7T Purdue 1153 8-1 9 beat #3, 2-0 in B1G 9 Minnesota 1038 4-3 11 unranked MI took them to the wire Friday; they destroyed UMD on Sunday 10 Baylor 962 5-3 12 2 back-to-back Ws v unranked KsSt. 11 BYU 920 9-1 15 12 Nebraska 896 6-3 6 whoopsie-dazie 13 Oregon 863 9-1 13 14 Stanford 841 5-3 16 15 Utah 654 7-2 10 down 5 Swept by #24 Colorado 16 Creighton 602 12-1 17 17 Florida 574 6-4 14 down 3 Lost to unranked Mississippi St. 18 Georgia Tech 533 9-1 18 2-0 in ACC 19 UCLA 445 7-1 19 20 Penn State 427 7-3 20 2 sweeps, incl v #3 TOSU21 Tennessee 289 8-2 22 22 W Kentucky 256 11-1 23 23 Pepperdine 240 8-1 24 24 Colorado 128 10-0 25 beat #15 25 San Diego 114 6-3 21 down 4 At least 2 votes went to: Marquette 41; North Carolina 39; Florida State 16; South Carolina 16; Ole Miss 12; UNLV 10; Boise State 7; Michigan 6; Rice 4 I think there is a lot of future movement built into those rankings. such prescience! This Monday may be the biggest moving day all season. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 3:15:54 GMT -5
Oregon should be in top 10
Washington should move out of top 10
Penn State should move up 5 places
Ohio State should move down 10 places
Kentucky, Purdue and Minnesota should all move up 2-3 places
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Post by nyline on Sept 27, 2021 5:57:47 GMT -5
Oregon should be in top 10 Washington should move out of top 10 Penn State should move up 5 places Ohio State should move down 10 places Kentucky, Purdue and Minnesota should all move up 2-3 places I bet Penn State is between 16th and 18th. One thing that seems clear now is that OSU was ranked #3 because of (in order of importance) 1) being undefeated (cross that one off, twice), 2) last season (cross that one off, it's past), and 3) being in the B1G. And I don't mean any disrespect to OSU -- it's a very, very good team. But I'll be very surprised if they end up being a Final Four team (then again, I've been very surprised many times in life, so . . . ). |
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Post by jojonito on Sept 27, 2021 8:16:01 GMT -5
One thing that is really annoying, is that once teams like Pittsburgh/Louisville get pretty high up, it's almost impossible to move them out as their conference (ACC) is pretty weak. So their only losses tend to be to each other. As you might have guessed, I think both teams are overrated. The AVCA poll doesn't matter all that much, but not infrequently, at the end of the year, the NCAA committee doing the seeding, gives teams too much credit and gives some teams an easy route to the semi-finals (cough cough - Texas).
I remember Missouri being undefeated, seeded #4 and losing to a mid-ranked B1G team (Purdue).
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Post by traveler on Sept 27, 2021 13:59:14 GMT -5
AVCA D1 Poll Week of September 27
MAGIC Number is 14
# Team Votes Votes Record Last # Unsolicited Commentary
(1st)
1 Texas (64) 1600 9-0 1 Tied w/MN for lowest number of matches this season
2 Pittsburgh 1513 12-0 4
3 Louisville 1485 10-0 5
4 Purdue 1353 10-1 7 Up 3. One of the more just outcomes IMHO
5 Wisconsin 1316 9-1 2 It pays to have rep when you lose to unranked, no vote team
6 Kentucky 1241 8-3 7
7 Minnesota 1197 6-3 9
8 Ohio State 1100 10-2 3 Down 6
9 Baylor 1071 7-3 10
10 BYU 1028 11-1 11
11 Oregon 942 11-1 13 Up 2
12 Nebraska 908 8-3 12
13 Washington 799 7-3 6 Down 7
14 Penn State 712 9-3 20 Up 6
15 UCLA 698 9-1 19 Up 4
16 Creighton 616 14-1 16
17 Stanford 596 6-4 14 Down 3
18 Georgia Tech 571 11-1 18
19 Utah 522 8-3 15 Down 4
20 Tennessee 358 10-2 21
21 W Kentucky 267 13-1 22
22 Florida 255 7-5 17 Down 5
23 Pepperdine 214 10-1 23
24 Colorado 181 11-1 24
25 San Diego 101 8-3 25
Others on multiple ballots: Washington State 75; Marquette 32; Ole Miss 15; Florida State 10; Michigan 7; Maryland 5; Rice 4.
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Post by seeyajohn on Sept 27, 2021 14:16:32 GMT -5
No west coast team in the top ten! How times have changed.
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Post by traveler on Sept 27, 2021 14:43:00 GMT -5
I looked at the ballots. PSU got as high as 5, as low as 24, and left off the ballot cast by Tom Mendoza (SoCar.)
What I don't understand is how TX can get 64 votes for 1st when ~10 ballots do not show as having been cast at all. Maybe there's some process that's not shown.
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Post by nyline on Sept 27, 2021 15:09:03 GMT -5
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