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Post by elliotberton on Sept 28, 2021 1:46:31 GMT -5
AVCA D1 Poll Week of September 27 MAGIC Number is 14# Team Votes Votes Record Last # Unsolicited Commentary (1st) 1 Texas (64) 1600 9-0 1 Tied w/MN for lowest number of matches this season2 Pittsburgh 1513 12-0 4 3 Louisville 1485 10-0 5 4 Purdue 1353 10-1 7 Up 3. One of the more just outcomes IMHO 5 Wisconsin 1316 9-1 2 It pays to have rep when you lose to unranked, no vote team 6 Kentucky 1241 8-3 7 7 Minnesota 1197 6-3 98 Ohio State 1100 10-2 3 Down 6 9 Baylor 1071 7-3 10 10 BYU 1028 11-1 11 11 Oregon 942 11-1 13 Up 212 Nebraska 908 8-3 1213 Washington 799 7-3 6 Down 714 Penn State 712 9-3 20 Up 615 UCLA 698 9-1 19 Up 416 Creighton 616 14-1 16 17 Stanford 596 6-4 14 Down 318 Georgia Tech 571 11-1 18 19 Utah 522 8-3 15 Down 420 Tennessee 358 10-2 21 21 W Kentucky 267 13-1 22 22 Florida 255 7-5 17 Down 523 Pepperdine 214 10-1 23 24 Colorado 181 11-1 24 25 San Diego 101 8-3 25 Others on multiple ballots: Washington State 75; Marquette 32; Ole Miss 15; Florida State 10; Michigan 7; Maryland 5; Rice 4. Just to make sure that we continue to receive it, your commentary is officially solicited. |
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Post by traveler on Oct 4, 2021 14:00:23 GMT -5
AVCA D1 Poll Week of 10/4 Alex, what is 13? [clue: what's the highest season ranking since play started?]
# Team (1st) Pts Rec Last # Commentariat
1 Texas (64) 1600 11-0 1 The one, the only... Beat WVU 2x. WVU, if you need to lose, choose #1; there's our RPI to consider
2 Pittsburgh 1518 14-0 2 Right state...
3 Louisville 1484 12-0 3
4 Wisconsin 1405 11-1 5 Up 1
5 Kentucky 1279 9-3 6
6 Purdue 1201 11-2 4 Down 2
7 Ohio State 1175 12-2 8 8 becomes 7
8 Minnesota 1161 7-4 7 and 7 becomes 8
9 BYU 1096 13-1 10
10 Nebraska 1000 10-3 12 1000? Never seen that...
11 Washington 912 9-3 13
12 Baylor 893 8-4 9 Not sure what happened here...
13 Penn State 808 11-3 14 Up 1.
14 Oregon 778 12-2 11 Dropped 3 after losing to #19 UT in 4 not very close sets
15 Utah 706 10-3 19 Up 4
16 UCLA 692 10-2 15
17 Stanford 659 8-4 17
18 Georgia Tech 395 11-3 18
19 Creighton 372 15-2 16
20t Florida 355 10-5 22 Only three ranked teams have more than 3 losses: MN and Baylor (4) and FL (5)
20t W Kentucky 355 15-1 21
22 Tennessee 285 12-3 20
23 Pepperdine 270 12-1 23
24 Colorado 163 12-2 24
25 San Diego 139 10-3 25
RV: Marquette 32; Illinois 21; Florida State 20; Washington State 13; Ole Miss 6; Rice 4; Maryland 2.
Bye, MI.
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Post by nyline on Oct 4, 2021 15:47:52 GMT -5
Glad to see Adam's Terps get some recognition.
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Post by ethankasales on Oct 4, 2021 16:02:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2021 21:46:48 GMT -5
If Michella Chester is putting PSU in the top 10, you know they're about to drop out.
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Post by jojonito on Oct 7, 2021 10:51:53 GMT -5
I was listening to the Volleyballmag weekly chat with Lee, Selima, Emily Ehrman and Jenny (something). One of the points they brought out, (and it's been mentioned on the forum that shall not be named). was that after the first 3 ranked teams, it's really hard to figure out the next 10-15 teams. Consequently, when a fairly high ranked team loses, the next 3-4 teams under them move up, so long as they don't lose either.  And the teams below them may not have played that well, but they are moved up anyway, cuz, the voters are faced with the question, "who else would you put there?" So teams have been moving up and down on a regular basis since they are in many cases ranked higher than they deserve, but there's no one else to put there. When you add in the general cluelessness of some of the voters, this adds for really chaotic ranking. That sounds a bit harsh, especially considering that most/all of the coaches don't have the time to check all of the various games that are going on each week. One voter hasn't been ranking PSU at all, even after PSU beat OH decisively and beat a pretty decent Maryland team. Go figure. (So you can put PSU up another position if he voted with any cluefullness ) And as those who have read any of my posts about Pittsburgh & Louisville, I don't think they belong at 2 & 3 either. Who have they played? Maybe they are that good, but we'll not know until the NCAA tournament happens. I really think that their weak conference will hurt them as they won't have the tough matches that the B1G and PAC12 have. I could see the same thing happening to them that happened to an undefeated Missouri team in 2013 (I think). On the other hand, maybe not. With few teams being consistent, it's a toss up. I think that the NCAA is gonna be a toss-up. Be fascinating to see who makes it to the quarter finals and semis. Texas is really good, true. Wisconsin is going to be really tough to beat cuz of Julia Orzol, the polish girl. She's had some really good matches. She's a freshman, so that means she'll be inconsistent . BUT, as she continues to improve, watch out!! I remember a Russ Rose quote after the 2010 finals. He said that the finals was the first time that Deja McClendon, Katie Slay and Ariel Scott had all been on in the same game. Says a bunch about his coaching that that happened in the most important game of the year. |
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Post by traveler on Oct 7, 2021 13:36:08 GMT -5
About the freshman... She may be a freshman academically, but the Badgers do not seem to disclose her year of birth...only the day October 11. She competed in a tourney for U19 in 2020. So she still could be U20, but may be older this late in the year.
It appears she spent at least part of her time fulltime training with Polish National Teams over the last couple years, although the bio seems so sketchy (as in incomplete) that it's hard to pin down.
Yes she's good. But to compare her to 17 and 18 yearolds...not sure that's fair.
If it would turn out to be true that she is older than most (all?) freshmen, depending on the age difference I might suggest a gentleman's way out of this would be to remove her from consideration for any freshmen awards.
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Post by jojonito on Oct 7, 2021 14:57:31 GMT -5
About the freshman... She may be a freshman academically, but the Badgers do not seem to disclose her year of birth...only the day October 11. She competed in a tourney for U19 in 2020. So she still could be U20, but may be older this late in the year. Very interesting!! Thanks for the info. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 21:42:33 GMT -5
About the freshman... She may be a freshman academically, but the Badgers do not seem to disclose her year of birth...only the day October 11. She competed in a tourney for U19 in 2020. So she still could be U20, but may be older this late in the year. It appears she spent at least part of her time fulltime training with Polish National Teams over the last couple years, although the bio seems so sketchy (as in incomplete) that it's hard to pin down. Yes she's good. But to compare her to 17 and 18 year olds...not sure that's fair. If it would turn out to be true that she is older than most (all?) freshmen, depending on the age difference I might suggest a gentleman's way out of this would be to remove her from consideration for any freshmen awards. Finding data on internationals is very easy. Technically she's still 18, turning 19 in 4 days. women.volleybox.net/julia-orzol-p26725/clubsJulia Orzol Nationality: Poland Position: Outside Hitter Birthdate: Oct. 11, 2002Height: 186cm Weight: 74kg Spike: 310cm Dominant hand: Right |
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Post by traveler on Oct 8, 2021 9:04:52 GMT -5
THANKS! I looked and looked and could not find. I'm really happy to know this. So odd WI does not disclose.
Easy: for you!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 15:07:05 GMT -5
I probably watch a lot more international volleyball than your average NCAA fan.
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Post by traveler on Oct 11, 2021 14:07:36 GMT -5
AVCA D1 Coaches Poll Week of 10/11 WE ARE...15
(First-Place Votes Adjusted) Total Points Adjusted
# Team (1sts) Votes Record Last # From the Commentariat
1 Texas (64) 1600 13-0 1
2 Louisville 1534 14-0 3
3 Wisconsin 1461 13-1 4 1 loss to an unranked team hurts less than Pitt's loss to #18 GT. Just sayin'
4 Pittsburgh 1311 15-1 2 Wait. They lost??? To GaTech in 5; first set loss since Sept 24
5 Kentucky 1286 11-3 5
6 Purdue 1272 13-2 6
7 Ohio State 1208 14-2 7
8 BYU 1154 16-1 9
9 Nebraska 1096 12-3 10
10 Washington 931 11-3 11
11 Baylor 910 9-4 12
12 Minnesota 892 8-5 8
13 Oregon 848 14-2 14
14 UCLA 802 12-2 16
15 Penn State 722 12-4 13 Punishment not proportionate to NE's gain. But I am searching for consistency? Silly me.
16 Georgia Tech 689 13-3 18
17 Utah 606 11-4 15
18 Stanford 554 9-5 17
19 Creighton 416 17-2 19
20 Western Kentucky 386 16-1 20
21 Tennessee 362 14-3 22
22 San Diego 248 12-3 25
23 Florida 170 11-6 20
24 Pepperdine 105 13-2 23
25 Washington State 74 9-6 NR
RV: Illinois 39; Marquette 33; Colorado 28; Michigan 25; Miami (FL) 20; Rice 12. [UMD: Exeunt]
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Post by nyline on Oct 11, 2021 15:51:51 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Penn State wasn't "punished" more than it was. But I'm with you -- silly us.
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Post by seeyajohn on Oct 11, 2021 18:01:27 GMT -5
I'm surprised that we didn't fall to 16. Penn State's rank would have less to do with how far Nebraska advanced and more to do with how Oregon and UCLA did. Since Georgia Tech upset Pitt and had already beaten Penn State there is a good argument for ranking them ahead of us also.
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Post by traveler on Oct 11, 2021 19:30:22 GMT -5
BTW: Gray apparently was subbed out midway through set 4. She booked 6 Ks and 1 BA, 1 SA. Not sure what was up.
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And the teams below them may not have played that well, but they are moved up anyway, cuz, the voters are faced with the question, "who else would you put there?" So teams have been moving up and down on a regular basis since they are in many cases ranked higher than they deserve, but there's no one else to put there. 