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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 17:32:28 GMT -5
Reporting on Volleytalk indicates that Jelena Novakovic has transferred to the University of Virginia. Can we be pretty sure that this is the last departure? Of course, we wish her the best.
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Post by nyline on Apr 13, 2017 19:24:05 GMT -5
Reporting on Volleytalk indicates that Jelena Novakovic has transferred to the University of Virginia. Can we be pretty sure that this is the last departure? Of course, we wish her the best. I think the roster is now set. Here's an excerpt from our post on the Rivera and Novakovic transfers, which includes an updated 2017 roster: Here's a link to our complete post on DigNittanyVolleyball.com: Rivera and Novakovic Moving On (Is 2017 Roster Set?) |
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Post by bob2061 on Apr 14, 2017 16:18:10 GMT -5
Reporting on Volleytalk indicates that Jelena Novakovic has transferred to the University of Virginia. Can we be pretty sure that this is the last departure? Of course, we wish her the best. I think the roster is now set. Here's an excerpt from our post on the Rivera and Novakovic transfers, which includes an updated 2017 roster: Here's a link to our complete post on DigNittanyVolleyball.com: Rivera and Novakovic Moving On (Is 2017 Roster Set?)Coach Kelly was very active in recruiting most of Nebraska's players and knows talent when she sees it. She is rebuilding the Louisville team and has to recruit against all the top VB schools. It will probably be several years before we can tell how successful she will become. Meanwhile Penn State has struggled to recruit any top elite players since the 2014 class. When I see the super elite wrestling talent Coach Sanderson continues to bring into Penn State; it becomes obvious that we simply do not have VB coaches that are connecting with the top elite high school players any longer. |
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Post by nyline on Apr 14, 2017 16:22:18 GMT -5
I think the class of 2018 disagrees with you on that last statement.
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Post by nitneliun on Apr 15, 2017 4:10:20 GMT -5
Coach Kelly was very active in recruiting most of Nebraska's players and knows talent when she sees it. She is rebuilding the Louisville team and has to recruit against all the top VB schools. It will probably be several years before we can tell how successful she will become. Meanwhile Penn State has struggled to recruit any top elite players since the 2014 class. When I see the super elite wrestling talent Coach Sanderson continues to bring into Penn State; it becomes obvious that we simply do not have VB coaches that are connecting with the top elite high school players any longer. You can't really make a comparison between PSU Wrestling recruiting and PSU WVB recruiting. Pennsylvania is to wrestling what Florida and Texas are to football. There is a tremendous amount of wrestling talent in PA high schools and clubs. Cael is keeping them at home instead of seeing them go to Iowa, Ohio State and Oklahoma State, as so often happened in the past. Most of our WVB players come from outside the state and often from across the country. It is much harder to recruit players who have a lot of options and have no particular loyalty to anything Pennsylvanian as they are growing up. |
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Post by nyline on Apr 15, 2017 6:50:58 GMT -5
Coach Kelly was very active in recruiting most of Nebraska's players and knows talent when she sees it. She is rebuilding the Louisville team and has to recruit against all the top VB schools. It will probably be several years before we can tell how successful she will become. Meanwhile Penn State has struggled to recruit any top elite players since the 2014 class. When I see the super elite wrestling talent Coach Sanderson continues to bring into Penn State; it becomes obvious that we simply do not have VB coaches that are connecting with the top elite high school players any longer. You can't really make a comparison between PSU Wrestling recruiting and PSU WVB recruiting. Pennsylvania is to wrestling what Florida and Texas are to football. There is a tremendous amount of wrestling talent in PA high schools and clubs. Cael is keeping them at home instead of seeing them go to Iowa, Ohio State and Oklahoma State, as so often happened in the past. Most of our WVB players come from outside the state and often from across the country. It is much harder to recruit players who have a lot of options and have no particular loyalty to anything Pennsylvanian as they are growing up. I agree 100%. Plus, the 2018 class is loaded (at least based on PrepVolleyball.com accolades) -- all six are highly-rated. |
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Post by bob2061 on Apr 15, 2017 8:55:00 GMT -5
I think the class of 2018 disagrees with you on that last statement. I'm using Prepvolleyball as my measuring stick here since it will over one year before these ladies arrive. They will have plenty of time to prove their meddle once they get on the court. Russ Rose is a proven developer of talent but the recruiting of recent top talent has been MIA. Recruiting is the lifeblood of all sports and we have watch the coaches bring players in only to see them leave a few years later when things didn't pan out. When you don't have a top 30 recruiting class 3 years in a row you wonder what is going on. This is Penn State we are talking about - great success in football, wrestling, lacrosse, etc It was a volleyball dynasty in the recent past and now has trouble getting elite players to even visit campus. Something doesn't seem quite right.  |
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Post by centralpennvbfan on Apr 15, 2017 12:43:12 GMT -5
Heh Bob,
Have you forgotten that there is a limited number of scholarships? I believe the number is 12... A number one recruiting class in 2014 limits the next seasons' open scholarship: But when they have the scholarships available look at the results: 2018 will be a NUMBER ONE RECRUITING YEAR! And with two scholarship athletes moving on to other programs, the coaching staff kicked into gear and grabbed a UnderArmour All-AMerican OH and a SEC OH KILL machine. The coaching staff earned alot of air miles in February/March, as well as, the fans' thanks and praise.
And your comments on PSU no longer being a VB dynasty: Please define a dynasty? PSU VB is the epitome of a dynasty with the greatest vb coach of all time. I believe the coaching staff has elite players on campus all of the time... unless you're sitting in rec hall outside of the VB offices 24/7 and know otherwise...
Trying to compare an individual sport with a team sport is ludicrous and not worth the energy to respond.
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Post by bob2061 on Apr 15, 2017 14:03:04 GMT -5
I would say 5 national championships in seven years certainly qualifies as a dynasty. Strangely, we didn't have trouble getting out-of-state talent during those years. Everyone thought with Salima coming back our recruiting would skyrocket, instead it went into the dumper. I would be embarrassed to be getting a six figure salary and not bring in a single top recruit since she returned. Her family seems to be her top priority. We didn't even have a top 30 recruiting class since 2014. Meanwhile Texas, Stanford, and Nebraska have been there every single year. If you aren't concerned about where we are headed maybe you don't really care. BTW we are bringing in tons of talent in football and wrestling from all over the nation. Of course, those coaches are busting their fannies to reach out to the athletes. Volleyball, not so much.
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Post by nyline on Apr 15, 2017 14:31:26 GMT -5
I would say 5 national championships in seven years certainly qualifies as a dynasty. Strangely, we didn't have trouble getting out-of-state talent during those years. Everyone thought with Salima coming back our recruiting would skyrocket, instead it went into the dumper. I would be embarrassed to be getting a six figure salary and not bring in a single top recruit since she returned. Her family seems to be her top priority. We didn't even have a top 30 recruiting class since 2014. Meanwhile Texas, Stanford, and Nebraska have been there every single year. If you aren't concerned about where we are headed maybe you don't really care. BTW we are bringing in tons of talent in football and wrestling from all over the nation. Of course, those coaches are busting their fannies to reach out to the athletes. Volleyball, not so much. I'm sorry, those two highlighted statements are ludicrous. Every single recruit in the 2018 class is a top recruit. Will they be All Americans? Who knows. But they all were highly sought-after. And to state that the coaching staff isn't "busting their fannies" is factually incorrect. They all work very, very, very hard. You're entitled to your opinion, but IMHO, in these two instances, you are factually incorrect. Bigly. |
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Post by nyline on Apr 15, 2017 18:59:05 GMT -5
I would say 5 national championships in seven years certainly qualifies as a dynasty. Strangely, we didn't have trouble getting out-of-state talent during those years. Everyone thought with Salima coming back our recruiting would skyrocket, instead it went into the dumper. I would be embarrassed to be getting a six figure salary and not bring in a single top recruit since she returned. Her family seems to be her top priority. We didn't even have a top 30 recruiting class since 2014. Meanwhile Texas, Stanford, and Nebraska have been there every single year. If you aren't concerned about where we are headed maybe you don't really care. BTW we are bringing in tons of talent in football and wrestling from all over the nation. Of course, those coaches are busting their fannies to reach out to the athletes. Volleyball, not so much. How about six national championships in eight years? 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014? |
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Post by seeyajohn on Apr 16, 2017 7:41:15 GMT -5
Dear Bob,
I am an avid fan of both the wrestling and women's volleyball teams. There is absolutely no reason to attempt to pit the success of the two dynasties against each other. We are blessed to have both programs at PSU.
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Post by centralpennvbfan on Apr 16, 2017 17:00:02 GMT -5
What year did PSU VB finally have every scholarship funded? Wrestling's coach has always had every scholarship funded. Do you think Coach Rose may have had two or three more NCAA championships? I do.
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Post by nyline on Apr 16, 2017 18:13:16 GMT -5
What year did PSU VB finally have every scholarship funded? Wrestling's coach has always had every scholarship funded. Do you think Coach Rose may have had two or three more NCAA championships? I do. Prior to joining Big 10, I think Coach Rose had maybe seven schollies to work with. So yes, I think he would have won more. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 20:55:18 GMT -5
What year did PSU VB finally have every scholarship funded? Wrestling's coach has always had every scholarship funded. Do you think Coach Rose may have had two or three more NCAA championships? I do. I know what you mean. But every scholarship is funded, by definition. It would be interesting to know what the NCAA scholarship limit is for wrestling. Might it be 20? Ten weight classes - 20 scholarships? That would correspond to Volleyball's 12 - two times the number of players on the court. |
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